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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby downunder » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:11 am

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No English?

What pi$$es me off in the EU is the EU itself, one nation and that... ;) And, I'm EU passport holder.

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby kite_hh » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:19 am

Yeah, I was a little surprised myself that they didn't have an english version of their site.

I would be willing to help translate if anyone needed it (though translate.google.com does a decent job). Or you could just write them an email. When I contacted them they were very friendly.
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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby downunder » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:42 am

Thanks

I am looking at your site and the A3 design is pretty much the FS design. I hated it. And here is why:

- the 'safety' line wraps around the middle line with every kite loop. And not that I loop a lot. After 6-10 wraps it is impossible to unwrap the line manually.
- when the lines are off the kite, the wrapped line makes it really hard to walk the lines. this is because this two lines are now wrapped around each other.
- the only solution is to loop the kite exact number of times to opposite. But:
- with no swivel, this is creating even worse situation with mid lines wrapped creating an safety issue when releasing!

Food for thoughts...

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby kite_hh » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:44 am

downunder wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:42 am
Thanks

I am looking at your site and the A3 design is pretty much the FS design. I hated it. And here is why:

- the 'safety' line wraps around the middle line with every kite loop. And not that I loop a lot. After 6-10 wraps it is impossible to unwrap the line manually.
- when the lines are off the kite, the wrapped line makes it really hard to walk the lines. this is because this two lines are now wrapped around each other.
- the only solution is to loop the kite exact number of times to opposite. But:
- with no swivel, this is creating even worse situation with mid lines wrapped creating an safety issue when releasing!

Food for thoughts...
I will need to think this through. It sounds reasonable and maybe I will need to add a swivel or change to another system. It is work in progress. So far it is working and I am not looping a lot.

Thanks for the input!

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby ap888 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:54 am

Humm um yeah...you have a point was thinking about that but now have confirmed it.. well gotta go with ozone method :)

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby kjorn » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:30 am

kite_hh wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:15 pm
It is finally done. I built my own kite bar.

Here is a picture of it:
bar2.jpg

I also did a little write up on how I did it.

It can be read here: https://dannlos.de/DIY_kite_bar.php

Thanks for all the help. I can't wait to test it. :D
DUDE!! WARNING!!

It looks like you are using some random bit of rope for your depower - remove it!! If it has a core (non-braided rope) in the middle you will have a surprise snap.

This has happened to a lot of locals kiters around us. They pick up rope intended for sailing or fishing and use it. The inner core wears out but the outer sheath shows no wear, then you get a sudden snap.

This happened to me a couple of weeks ago, I used some non-dynema rope for my bridle. It lasted about 6 sessions before breaking.

Use 6mm Dynema or amsteel for depower :)

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby kite_hh » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:20 am

kjorn wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:30 am
It looks like you are using some random bit of rope for your depower - remove it!! If it has a core (non-braided rope) in the middle you will have a surprise snap.
Haha, relax and read what I wrote about the depower rope:

"For the depower chord I chose a sheathed 5mm Dyneema line with 1050 daN breaking load. The sheathing has the advantage of better grip to your hand, the clam cleat and a layer of protection from abrasion. I have yet to figure out why North uses a raw Dyneema line."

It is sheathed dyneema and way better than a raw dyneema rope, because the sheathing protects from UV and from the abrasion of the clam cleat. It is the toughest piece of rope on the bar. :-)

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby evan » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:10 am

I didn't knew UV was a problem on Dyneema. It is actually one of the most UV resistant artificial fibres if I am correct.

The rough sheeting will eat away your bar and Clamcleat faster than a naked Dyneema rope. On my bars I only use the sheeting on the part that you grab.

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby kite_hh » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:51 pm

evan wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:10 am
I didn't knew UV was a problem on Dyneema. It is actually one of the most UV resistant artificial fibres if I am correct.

The rough sheeting will eat away your bar and Clamcleat faster than a naked Dyneema rope. On my bars I only use the sheeting on the part that you grab.
Yes, Dyneema is pretty resistent to UV. Hence, the UV-protection probably isn't necessary taking the average life span of a trimming line into account. However, the better handling and abrasion protection from the clam cleat make it worth while anyhow.

I really doubt the sheathing will eat anything off my bar, but again, this is my first bar and I will make sure to keep an eye on EVERYTHING on it once I finally get to use it.

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby downunder » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:15 am

It is actually chewing the cleat and alu bar. But, more importantly, the cleat grip is so high that most of the time I can't pull it.

Extremely annoying, plus, can be a safety issue. Your choice.


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