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Postby TomW » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:55 pm
Final bottom coats. Gloss straight off. No sanding or polishing required.
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Postby jaros » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:06 am
Beautiful work, very nice!
Is the kork pad made from the 2mm kork from a roll? What did you do to the edge of the pad? For me kork offers the best feeling of all pads, but it allways starts to chip off arround edges...
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Postby TomW » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:15 pm
jaros wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:06 am
Beautiful work, very nice!
Is the kork pad made from the 2mm kork from a roll? What did you do to the edge of the pad? For me kork offers the best feeling of all pads, but it allways starts to chip off arround edges...
Yea, I bought a 10m roll of 3mm. Its pretty cheap. Enough for 20 boards cost 140 usd. 2mm would work too. I rounded the top edge, used spray contact glue to put it down.
Yes, edge will be sensitive, thats why I pulled it in from the rail. Its possible to seal the edge with epoxy and it toughens it up.
I put one on a test board and its held up well. But thus was first time I've used it. A few customers really wanted it.
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Postby merl » Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:59 am
TomW wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:15 pm
Yea, I bought a 10m roll of 3mm. Its pretty cheap. Enough for 20 boards cost 140 usd. 2mm would work too.
$140 for 10m? Not bauhaus then:
https://www.bauhaus.se/kork-pa-rulle-8x ... obehandlad
I notice a couple of things: the shape is cut really well - any special tricks for that? Secondly, if you are using contact adhesive how did you manage to lay it with perfect accuracy? Or did you lay first then cut along a masked edge? Did you use vacuum to press it?
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Postby TomW » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:33 pm
merl wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:59 am
TomW wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:15 pm
Yea, I bought a 10m roll of 3mm. Its pretty cheap. Enough for 20 boards cost 140 usd. 2mm would work too.
$140 for 10m? Not bauhaus then:
https://www.bauhaus.se/kork-pa-rulle-8x ... obehandlad
I notice a couple of things: the shape is cut really well - any special tricks for that? Secondly, if you are using contact adhesive how did you manage to lay it with perfect accuracy? Or did you lay first then cut along a masked edge? Did you use vacuum to press it?
Ha! Good find! Good deal!! I'll buy that next time. The roll it bought is 1m wide.
The spray contact glue didn't work well, I didn't use a vacuum and it was challenging to position. I failed once. Perhaps vacuum would have made it glue down better.
I think regular brush on contact glue will work better. But have not tested it.
I cut out the cork using a paper template first.
Actually I think best way is to seal the underside with a coat of epoxy to seal it. Then after sealing coat cures, use epoxy and microballon mix to glue the cork to deck under vacuum.
Its a lot more work than using an eva pad with sticky tape.
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Postby Jyoder » Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:25 am
I’ve used 1-2mm big box hardware store rolled cork but it wears away fast if you use booties. Hopefully your more expensive stuff lasts.
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Postby Matthijs94 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:07 pm
Building my first foam/carbon board (108x42x2cm) Gained a lot of information from this topic. Curious how many layers of carbon 200g are needed. Prefer a stronger board than going for lowest weight possible.
Core is two times 10mm easycell, with an extra 10mm (42x45cm) to add thickness where the us boxes are placed. In between the two 10mm i added some carbon patches for reinforcement.
Thinking of the following lay up (top-down):
200g carbon: full board
200g carbon: full board
250g uni d: staggered in lenght (0.5m2, stringer)
Easycell: 10mm full board
200g carbon 42x50 reinforcement
Easycell: 10mm full board
Easycell: 10mm 42x45cm added thickness for us box
200g carbon: 42x45cm reinforcement patch us box
250g uni d: staggered in lenght (0.5m2, stringer)
200g carbon: full board
Wanting to shape a little deck concave and bottom concave. Plus adding two lightweight inserts for one foothook in the front.
No experience with the materials, only from reading on the internet. Over build? Better safe than sorry?
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Postby merl » Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:26 pm
One layer of 200g twill is enough with that core, in addition to the uni. [Edit: you should never put carbon or glass in the middle of foam - a total waste - it should only be in the skin, and as I said in addition to reinforcement around the box using e.g. uni you can get away with 1 wrapped layer of 200g carbon on each side]
That is what my very amateur build used and it seems fine (108 x 47, 1.8kg).
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Postby TomW » Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:57 pm
Agree, carbon inside foam is waste. That layup will be bomb proof.
You can get away with one layer carbon twill each side as merl says, but you have to be really careful to not sand through.
With that 75kg foam, I put 1 full carbon wrap each side around rail and one deck patch.
Ive found nose of board takes a beating on beach and parking lot because you rest board on nose and foil. So ive started adding a nose patch around nose rail. I just use a cutoff.
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