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Re: Looking for cheap lines supplier

Postby daspi » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:29 pm

People have used Jerry Brown fishing lines. You have to do the pre-stretching. Otherwise hear good things about them. Not sure if you can get them shipped to Brazil. But thought I might chime in for others to see.
http://www.bhptackle.com/home.php?cat=46
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Re: Looking for cheap lines supplier

Postby supachip1 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:41 pm

jeely on aliexpress, there is a chart with sizes, strand, load weights, wholesale/manufactures.

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Re: Looking for cheap lines supplier

Postby harmsel » Sat Aug 14, 2021 6:19 am

I use these Ali lines in one bar:
€ 26,16 28%OFF | JEELY 661LBS 1.6mm hollow braid tent rope 8 strands 50M Spectra
https://a.aliexpress.com/_vKs9vQ

And Premiumropes in the other bar (1.1 and 1.6 mm)
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Re: Looking for cheap lines supplier

Postby nixmatters » Sat Aug 14, 2021 12:39 pm

harmsel wrote:
Sat Aug 14, 2021 6:19 am
I use these Ali lines in one bar:
€ 26,16 28%OFF | JEELY 661LBS 1.6mm hollow braid tent rope 8 strands 50M Spectra
https://a.aliexpress.com/_vKs9vQ

And Premiumropes in the other bar (1.1 and 1.6 mm)
€ 26 for 50 meters hardly spliceable 8 strand 300kg Chinese line?!? Man, that's expensive!

I can get you a top grade SK99 12 strand for that price! Made in Europe.

If anyone else is interested, drop me a message.

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Re: Looking for cheap lines supplier

Postby cleepa » Sat Aug 14, 2021 6:22 pm

A friend and I did this. I definitely recommend it - it is not hard to sew or splice your own lines. Here's a summary of what I have learned:
- Get front line material that is slightly thicker than the back line material. Front lines take a greater share of the load. Doing this means they will stretch at roughly the same rate. After I make a line set, I have never had to restretch them to tune them. If I remember right, my front lines are 600lb breaking strength and the back lines are 400lb. It is whatever Wainman used to use - that is who I got the info from.
- I use a Brummel splice with pigtails. Never had anything break.
- My friend uses a sleeve + sewn loop. Also never had anything break. This is made much easier if you make a plastic holder for use during sewing.
- SK75 has been fine, but if I did it again I would go for SK99 for the upgraded specs. But that will probably never happen. I bought 2000m of line material as there was a minimum order of 1000m on a spool!
- It is very cheap... I think the material cost for me for a set of lines is US $15.
- The made in China thing is nothing to worry about. That's where most of the line material for major brands is made. We bought through Alibaba, and with not much searching found the supplier for one of the major brands. I would personally choose to do it that way again.

That's all I can think of right now. Happy to answer questions if anyone has any.
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Re: Looking for cheap lines supplier

Postby nixmatters » Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:22 pm

cleepa wrote:
Sat Aug 14, 2021 6:22 pm
A friend and I did this. I definitely recommend it - it is not hard to sew or splice your own lines. Here's a summary of what I have learned:
- Get front line material that is slightly thicker than the back line material. Front lines take a greater share of the load. Doing this means they will stretch at roughly the same rate. After I make a line set, I have never had to restretch them to tune them. If I remember right, my front lines are 600lb breaking strength and the back lines are 400lb. It is whatever Wainman used to use - that is who I got the info from.
- I use a Brummel splice with pigtails. Never had anything break.
- My friend uses a sleeve + sewn loop. Also never had anything break. This is made much easier if you make a plastic holder for use during sewing.
- SK75 has been fine, but if I did it again I would go for SK99 for the upgraded specs. But that will probably never happen. I bought 2000m of line material as there was a minimum order of 1000m on a spool!
- It is very cheap... I think the material cost for me for a set of lines is US $15.
- The made in China thing is nothing to worry about. That's where most of the line material for major brands is made. We bought through Alibaba, and with not much searching found the supplier for one of the major brands. I would personally choose to do it that way again.

That's all I can think of right now. Happy to answer questions if anyone has any.
Good job and thanks for sharing!

I need to correct you on 3 points though.

1. Good quality factory prestrerched lines don't stretch with use. Kite factories pretension the lines before cutting with 40 to 70kg.

2. Most of the lines for major kite brands, and a number of small ones too, are made in Europe. I don't know a single major brand not getting their lines from one of these European line manufacturers (in alphabetical order):
- Braidtech
- Cousin (but not Dyneema)
- Liros
- Teufelberger/Robline
Marlow make SK99 kite lines too, but not sure if any of the big brands are sourcing from them.
For Slingshot and Naish I'm not certain if they use lines from above suppliers.

3. 600lbs/400lbs are rather low values for most of the major kite brands, with the exception of some foil/race bars where thin lines are essential for low drag.
The actual loads on the lines are way lower during normal use, but to guarantee durability and safety it is necessary to overspec them significantly.

Can you please measure the approx diameter of the 2 lines you bought from China? If they are not perfectly round, the thinnest and thickest cross section will do. Put few kg load on the line when measuring. Thanks!

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Re: Looking for cheap lines supplier

Postby B19 ELS » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:36 am

I was looking at these for an old 2010 north trust bar.

Are these made of cheese 🧀 and unsafe or old stock and safe?

https://www.savefromj.com/kite-spare-li ... 473692.htm

I am going to buy a couple of depower ropes which are £15 each but why are the complete line set so cheap? Will they have all the pig tails etc? Avoid as normal line are £200?
Advice appreciated.

Ells

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Re: Looking for cheap lines supplier

Postby B19 ELS » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:37 am

Where can I get old north 2010 depower lines cheap as duotone only carry spares for 5/6 years?

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Re: Looking for cheap lines supplier

Postby nixmatters » Sat Aug 21, 2021 10:16 am

B19 ELS wrote:
Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:36 am
I was looking at these for an old 2010 north trust bar.

Are these made of cheese 🧀 and unsafe or old stock and safe?

https://www.savefromj.com/kite-spare-li ... 473692.htm

I am going to buy a couple of depower ropes which are £15 each but why are the complete line set so cheap? Will they have all the pig tails etc? Avoid as normal line are £200?
Advice appreciated.

Ells
Not sure if it's cheese, but it's definitely a very stinky one! Looks like a proper fraud.

Contact a local repair shop and get them to make you the set of lines you need and inspect your bar. I doubt a 2010 bar needs only these 2 lines to be considered safe.

P.S. There are no 2 items matching here!
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