first of all I think there are two different things you are asking. The tactics of racing...learn your gear, be able to control it make your tacks hold your lines, all the needed skills. Also know the rules and follow them. These will allow you to implement strategy into tactics.kinchencool wrote:hey guys does anybody know good tactics that the pros are using in the race course? for starts and during race some helpful strategys also pre starts how to start out in first lane and good speed whats the key? and also how to know which side of the course is favored when racing.
A question downwind, what am i looking for slow and low or high and fast also i heard when racing downwind you have to have an harmony between your apparent wind and real wind how does that work?
interesting. as the apparent speed is so high I was assuming small jumps in wind direction did not had such a high impact...tautologies wrote: Do not always follow the crowd. I've had some success where noticing small changes in wind direction leaving everyone that is on a regular tack worse off for the upwind mark where I sped up...
Seems like that is what slalom racing is like. A little bit of tactics at the mark roundings, but mostly it is a drag race downwind. Just go as fast as you can in a straight line and don't mess up your jibes at the marks.Tiago1973 wrote:somehow i see kite race more close to a kind of a horse race than to sailing....
everything being equal, yes. but i guess i miss to make my pointdavesails7 wrote:Seems like that is what slalom racing is like. A little bit of tactics at the mark roundings, but mostly it is a drag race downwind. Just go as fast as you can in a straight line and don't mess up your jibes at the marks.Tiago1973 wrote:somehow i see kite race more close to a kind of a horse race than to sailing....
Apparent wind speed shouldn't change the fact that if you tack on the right wind shifts, you're going upwind a lot faster (same board speed with higher angle = higher VMG) than someone who doesn't and you will be the first to the mark.
not against good riders.davesails7 wrote:I see what you are saying. It does seem like there is more skill involved in getting boardspeed on a kiteboard as compared to a typical dinghy, so if you are really good at riding fast and don't know anything about tactics you could still do pretty well?
yup..if you know the spots and how the wind works you can get a significant advantage. If the course is set up as a diamond along the shore, a slight shift in wind direction can have you go almost straight up to the upwind mark. If you do this at start and you can avoid the main group (depending on which tack you are) you can achieve something. I am guessing the really good riders have this pretty dialed in.I think that results show that tactics is most important though. It seems like top level sailors become fast kite racers pretty quickly.
Well I don't think the wind blocking can be done as effectively since we can more the sail, but there are certain tactics that can be used while passing marks. If you are behind passing a mark can change the yield rules (I can't remember the terminology for this)...assuming the guys you are racing care about that
One large portion of sailing tactics that is missing in kiting (I think) is covering downwind. In sailing, overtaking boats on the downwind leg is done by blocking the wind from getting to the boat in front of you. I don't think you can do this with the kite (much) because the kites are always moving. Or am I wrong about this and you can take someone's wind on a kite?
This reference to pressure is actually a reference to the wind and staying in it!coleman wrote:i have heard in an interview several riders talk of keeping pressure in the kite going downwind. i assume there is an optimal angle where the kite maintains pressure while flying at the maximum angle downwind.
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