Thanks Toby, just wishful thinking on my part.Toby wrote:I fly the 2012 5th Line Bar with all my kites. Dynos, protos and Rebel 18.
I have a 3D printer so will prototype with this and injection mould a stronger part once satisfied with result. From the photos I've seen the spacing for the loop looks too close on the 2015 Bar. I will try this first though as this will be an easy solution, otherwise I think I can make a replacement part to fit over the bar. Will see what I come up with and post solution. Thanks for advice.Toby wrote:It can work.
You need a 3D printer and then you can make your own plastic hook that fits on the 2015 rotor head. The loop you can attach where the screws are, just use screws with a thicker head.
Toby wrote:Hi guys,
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Important to know is that the Rebel 18 does not have the low end like the Dyno 2011.
With the Rebel 18 North wanted to continue the character of the Rebels, easy handling, performance and good high end.
The Rebel 18 has a good feel on the bar, not as heavy as the Dyno 2011, but you can feel the kite with no problem
so nothing new, again the low wing profile kite good only for the lite weight kiters and the ideal conditions. if i wanted that I'd buy the race kite!Toby wrote:A heavy rider can use this kite for stronger winds, if they still want the feel of an 18 to land their tricks
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I am happy to have this kite, since it opens the stronger winds for me and my tricks.
I will persuade North now to do an Airstyle Kite for 2016 with more low end like the 2011 Dyno.
Then they will have a good choice for lighter and heavier riders
all those bar pressure and turning speed qualities are easily adjusted by the bridle configurations, you don't have to change the wing profile or wings aspect ratio for thisToby wrote:So, for whom is the kite good for you will ask yourself?
For me it replaces my Rebel 16 from 2010. The 16 turned faster which made me crash with rotating tricks when going big because it steered faster. Now I have the same wind range, 2 sqm more for more hangtime and slower steering
Toby wrote:Once the kite has power, it has a very good lift and hangtime. By removing the center strut it adds more hangtime
by what physical formula or simple logic removing the strut adds any hang time?Westozzy wrote:Damn that's a big open centre section!!
eree wrote:Toby wrote:Hi guys,
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Important to know is that the Rebel 18 does not have the low end like the Dyno 2011.
With the Rebel 18 North wanted to continue the character of the Rebels, easy handling, performance and good high end.
The Rebel 18 has a good feel on the bar, not as heavy as the Dyno 2011, but you can feel the kite with no problemso nothing new, again the low wing profile kite good only for the lite weight kiters and the ideal conditions. if i wanted that I'd buy the race kite!Toby wrote:A heavy rider can use this kite for stronger winds, if they still want the feel of an 18 to land their tricks
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I am happy to have this kite, since it opens the stronger winds for me and my tricks.
I will persuade North now to do an Airstyle Kite for 2016 with more low end like the 2011 Dyno.
Then they will have a good choice for lighter and heavier riders
i know already that low wing profile kite makes me use at least one size bigger kite than not so called "high performance" profile kite.
those lower profile kites are bad airstyle kites because their lift is dependent on the air speed, and when kiter gets airborne kites air speed drops, so does the lift and kite goes down.
that is why '11 Dynos with their higher profile are good airstyle kites and not so good race kites.
anyway worthless for heavy rider, and liter rider can still use the race kite. so why do you need 2015 Rebel 18 sqm?
i understand Toby can not criticize too much the North product, other wise he can lose all those prototype testing opportunities. so i wouldn't take it dead serious
all those bar pressure and turning speed qualities are easily adjusted by the bridle configurations, you don't have to change the wing profile or wings aspect ratio for thisToby wrote:So, for whom is the kite good for you will ask yourself?
For me it replaces my Rebel 16 from 2010. The 16 turned faster which made me crash with rotating tricks when going big because it steered faster. Now I have the same wind range, 2 sqm more for more hangtime and slower steering
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