Froggies warned you

[Truc]

It's some time since I haven't visited the forum.

I have discovered that all of you,Toby included, recognize that some of you defended a crook.

I personnaly warned everybody about Carafino. Sorry that I could not tell you exactly who I am. In my country my credit is high. But Mango is too dangerous for my family.

Many of you said that we spoke bad because we were jalous. That was 100 % wrong.

Sorry for all of you who lost money. Hope you will foil anyway. Foiling is just wonderful.

[Toby]

Sure, by now we can be sure you were right.
Production can be delayed, and some stuff was delivered.

But now we know that he is a scam for sure.

Just make sure he is not welcome on any beach anywhere in the world.

Ad also sorry for the ones who lost their money.

But once again lesson learned: if it is too good to be true, it is a scam.
Same like these online shops who offer gear very cheap...

[Tone]

Me too!

Not that I ever wanted to prove anyone wrong.

Sorry people lost their money.... but do your research next time.

tony

[revhed]

I must say I was shocked at the few guys here ( you and I know who you are) who kept defending him when it was SO clear that he was full of shit! Prove it to yourself by rereading his outlandish posts!
And to even question the credibility of the few guys here informed enough to call him on ALL his BS!
All we were trying to do was inform you (from his known history) about his Lies so you could keep your cash and save the nightmare of doing any business with him. Just ask A R!
But as usual in life bad guys almost always get what is coming to them and I know personally of a few
who will not forget and will, have done something!
Sure is nice to not read any of his BS anymore, although some of it was way out there!
It really is to bad because he could have had and made his positive mark on our sport had he not lied, exaggerated, been threatening, and most important been honest in business!
I am so sorry for any of you who got ripped off, I hope you do all that is possible to hold him accountable!
I just hope that more than a few who read our posts and replys thought twice and did not get involved!
Any thank yous or apologies? I won`t hold my breath.........
Anyway.......c who?
R H

[Starsky]

I totally stood up for him and against the one man but well assisted campaign to sink him.

There is no doubt he's dubious and untrustworthy, and super full of shit. I think Im on the record with that pretty early.

I still don't think he had the aim to disappear. He wanted the fame he felt owed, wanted the name like Robby or Pete. He genuinely had the toy that all the sucker kiters were gonna want and he had It partially right. An affordable foil that worked for all the joe blows not the racer. As a joe blow, I totally wanna see someone else with a few more ethics take up the idea and make a bunch of money, but were going to wait for our existing brands to try and fight over that segment.

Who knows maybe arcs rule could have written raving reviews and saved it all for him.

[Robsw6]

He wanted the fame he felt owed, wanted the name like Robby or Pete. He genuinely had the toy that all the sucker kiters were gonna want and he had It partially right. An affordable foil that worked for all the joe blows not the racer. As a joe blow, I totally wanna see someone else with a few more ethics take up the idea and make a bunch of money, but were going to wait for our existing brands to try and fight over that segment.

Partially agree - his egomania was clear to see.

But there are manufacturers out there making incredible foils/boards at reasonable prices:
http://www.moseshydrofoil.com/
http://www.24-7boardsports.com/moses-si ... oard-foil/

[lezo]

Indeed, froggie advice was useful here, at least I hope that it scared off some potential C buyers..

[Tfcm]

Just to be fair.. We (as in our group of did get our boards and foils delivered (yes about 8weeks later than promised) and as far as i know all have held up fine with no issues to report.. They aren't the fastest but they work well and we are stoked to be foiling.. Its a shame some didnt grt the same stoke..

[cglazier]

Just to be fair.. We (as in our group of did get our boards and foils delivered (yes about 8weeks later than promised) and as far as i know all have held up fine with no issues to report.. They aren't the fastest but they work well and we are stoked to be foiling.. Its a shame some didnt grt the same stoke..

Same for the group who bought them here. All the boards and foils arrived and they all work OK although they wont win any races.

Carafino tried to sell at an absurdly low price and was destined to fail.

I am very sorry for those who lost out.

CG

[Starsky]

Except wind rider, not very sorry for that dude!