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Re: Moses 2018

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:55 am
by cwood
pikovsg wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:41 am
I have been riding both Lift and Moses non-stop for the past two years. I love both of them and would not part with either. The compactness is the least of issues, personally. Traveled across the globe with both.

The biggest overall difference is that Lift's foils tend to be more carvy/surfy/comfort and Moses is more sporty/straight line riding. For example, take the equivalent general use foil from each - Lift 110 and Moses 550 or 548. Moses will be slightly faster and require a bit more effort to carve. Super fun, just more effort. Lift will be a bit slower, more stable and friendly to carve. Also super fun, more soul riding.

Moses 633 is the exception to the above. It's Lift equivalent, the 170, is faster, but more carvy. You can ride much bigger waves with 633 vs. 170 because 633 is slower on the face of the wave and does not outrun it. The slower speed of the 633 also means significantly better low end when foiling in marginal conditions.
The man knows these intimately and rides them like he stole them. Take his word as fact. Although I bet he gets to ride a little less these days :D :o

Re: Moses 2018

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:18 pm
by DAnderson
Wondering if you'all are jumping the 633?
I've seen a bent (not Moses) alloy fuselage from jumping w/ a larger wing a while back. Curious if risk to gear is a consideration.

Re: Moses 2018

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:27 pm
by pikovsg
No issues jumping the 633

Re: Moses 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:31 am
by cwood
Broke my beloved 637 yesterday on a launch near the end of a robust boosting session. Wonderful Moses already has a replacement en route! Great support.


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Re: Moses 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:26 pm
by TomW
I broke down and ordered a 633 wing/ fuselage/ stab setup for my fluente mast..
So many positive reviews and my progression has stalled ( no pun intended).
I suspect it will be my go-to setup, been enjoying more swell /small wave riding on the 590, and could use easier ride to learn flying footswitch.
Have not used 550 at all this year..
Hope to get it next week.
Made a 120cm pocket strapless with mast attachment way back for it.
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Re: Moses 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:10 am
by oregonkiter
Really nice looking board.

You might need to mount the 633 a bit farther back

Hard to tell from photos.

Re: Moses 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:38 am
by Frank Rosin
Tom, I think you will like it a lot, most people do, no matter what level, at least as an additional option for specific riding styles or conditions or simply to mix it up when normally riding high-aspect race wings for example.
Also when there is seaweed it can make a session still being enjoyable, like it did for me yesterday (pics).

Position on board looks fine, otherwise shimming the stabilizer works well on the Onda. Feel free to contact me if you need advice or want to order shims for it.

Cheers,
Frank
www.famousfrank.com

Re: Moses 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:42 pm
by Texaskiter
cwood wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:31 am
Broke my beloved 637 yesterday on a launch near the end of a robust boosting session. Wonderful Moses already has a replacement en route! Great support.



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Chuck- Glad to hear you are back in the water and glad to hear Moses treated you right on that!

Re: Moses 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:22 pm
by TomW
oregonkiter wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:10 am
Really nice looking board.

You might need to mount the 633 a bit farther back

Hard to tell from photos.
130mm from tail to rear plate holes. I use foothooks, so needed that distance to get rear hook in position. only using my hooks for lazy man waterstart.. but looking forward to going strapless with 633 if board will float on side better.
My boards have some volume, thin in the middle, but with rail volume.. about 10-13 liters.

Frank, Thanks for information and offer of help. You're always very helpful! Going to get it dialed in before trip to Brazil in late October.

Re: Moses 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:59 pm
by Frank Rosin
TomW wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:22 pm
oregonkiter wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:10 am
Really nice looking board.

You might need to mount the 633 a bit farther back

Hard to tell from photos.
130mm from tail to rear plate holes. I use foothooks, so needed that distance to get rear hook in position. only using my hooks for lazy man waterstart.. but looking forward to going strapless with 633 if board will float on side better.
My boards have some volume, thin in the middle, but with rail volume.. about 10-13 liters.

Frank, Thanks for information and offer of help. You're always very helpful! Going to get it dialed in before trip to Brazil in late October.

What are the dimensions of the board?
edit: 120cm long, just found it.
I think you will be fine, strapless at least.
In case you need to adjust stance a bit still, you can shim the stabilizer, but would guess you do not need to.

Cheers,
Frank
www.famousfrank.com