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Dwarfcraft 3'6" vs Groove Skate

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby junebug » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:01 am

Very helpful, thanks! I’m surprised there aren’t more pocket boards out there. Looks like if I want under 110cm my best options are Kanaha, Dwarfcraft, and J Shapes (which isn’t on your list).

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby Foxi » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:14 am

junebug wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:01 am
Very helpful, thanks! I’m surprised there aren’t more pocket boards out there. Looks like if I want under 110cm my best options are Kanaha, Dwarfcraft, and J Shapes (which isn’t on your list).
the new F-One Pockets - min 120cm

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby DAnderson » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:23 pm

junebug wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:01 am
J Shapes (which isn’t on your list).
I wasn't considering a tuttle mount, although their product does look nice.
How would you mount that 633 setup onto a J Shapes?

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby junebug » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:36 pm

DAnderson wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:23 pm
junebug wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:01 am
J Shapes (which isn’t on your list).
I wasn't considering a tuttle mount, although their product does look nice.
How would you mount that 633 setup onto a J Shapes?
They will build their boards with a track if you request it.

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby junebug » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:05 pm

grigorib wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:23 am
salvino wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:07 am
I do think that these pocket boards have so much to offer. That, combined with a significant market of intermediate foilers looking to upgrade are going to overwhelm suppliers.

Select and order soon. Just sayin
You’d expect suppliers to read the writing on the wall and kind of dump the unnecessarily complicated truck-sized horrors they’ve been offering for freeride so far. The
Big boards are great for big guys, learning, and lighter winds, but, yeah, I’m surprised the US manufacturers aren’t offering many options in pocket boards in the 42in range and lower. It looks to me like the smallest US-based production board you can get is the Dwarfcraft 42in, and I don’t see any others in that size range.

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby grigorib » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:02 pm

junebug wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:05 pm
grigorib wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:23 am
salvino wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:07 am
I do think that these pocket boards have so much to offer. That, combined with a significant market of intermediate foilers looking to upgrade are going to overwhelm suppliers.

Select and order soon. Just sayin
You’d expect suppliers to read the writing on the wall and kind of dump the unnecessarily complicated truck-sized horrors they’ve been offering for freeride so far. The
Big boards are great for big guys, learning, and lighter winds, but, yeah, I’m surprised the US manufacturers aren’t offering many options in pocket boards in the 42in range and lower. It looks to me like the smallest US-based production board you can get is the Dwarfcraft 42in, and I don’t see any others in that size range.
Kanaha Shapes is US too but I’d love to see more competition. $800 tag for a board is a bit too much. Even more complicated kitesurfboards appear on sale for $300-$400 and that is with fins, straps, shaping and fancy looks.

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby Laughingman » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:09 pm

they are way over priced for what they are imho and it seems the smaller you go the more money they want... Look at the Crazyfly F-Lite Foil Deck... $910 US FFS! what the duck are they thinking?

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby phlow » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:56 pm

I came from Original Alien Air, I ride a Nobile Zen Splitboard foil when travelling , have ridden the two Crazy Fly pocket boards but have been riding a Groove Skate for a couple of months. I'm a big guy, 225lbs, riding strapless on a Moses 590/330 101cm. Board is awesome, freakishly light, the scoop helps you on marginal wind starts or if you touch down. I didn't really care for the CF's they have no displacement. The new small Dwarfcraft will certainly be cheaper and easier to get, and the F-One small board looks nice if you have a local dealer.

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby Foxi » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:58 am

phlow wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:56 pm
I came from Original Alien Air, I ride a Nobile Zen Splitboard foil when travelling , have ridden the two Crazy Fly pocket boards but have been riding a Groove Skate for a couple of months. I'm a big guy, 225lbs, riding strapless on a Moses 590/330 101cm. Board is awesome, freakishly light, the scoop helps you on marginal wind starts or if you touch down. I didn't really care for the CF's they have no displacement. The new small Dwarfcraft will certainly be cheaper and easier to get, and the F-One small board looks nice if you have a local dealer.
this rockerline is unmatched by any other pocket board currently available
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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby junebug » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:06 am

grigorib wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:02 pm
junebug wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:05 pm
grigorib wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:23 am


You’d expect suppliers to read the writing on the wall and kind of dump the unnecessarily complicated truck-sized horrors they’ve been offering for freeride so far. The
Big boards are great for big guys, learning, and lighter winds, but, yeah, I’m surprised the US manufacturers aren’t offering many options in pocket boards in the 42in range and lower. It looks to me like the smallest US-based production board you can get is the Dwarfcraft 42in, and I don’t see any others in that size range.
Kanaha Shapes is US too but I’d love to see more competition. $800 tag for a board is a bit too much. Even more complicated kitesurfboards appear on sale for $300-$400 and that is with fins, straps, shaping and fancy looks.
Kanaha boards are actually $850 plus shipping from Hawaii. They look great, but that’s a lot to pay for a board, especially one with no tracks.


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