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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby junebug » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:07 am

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I came from Original Alien Air, I ride a Nobile Zen Splitboard foil when travelling , have ridden the two Crazy Fly pocket boards but have been riding a Groove Skate for a couple of months. I'm a big guy, 225lbs, riding strapless on a Moses 590/330 101cm. Board is awesome, freakishly light, the scoop helps you on marginal wind starts or if you touch down. I didn't really care for the CF's they have no displacement. The new small Dwarfcraft will certainly be cheaper and easier to get, and the F-One small board looks nice if you have a local dealer.
this rockerline is unmatched by any other pocket board currently available

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Is that photograph the Groove Skate?

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby Foxi » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:17 am

junebug wrote:
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Is that photograph the Groove Skate?
yep

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:22 pm

Foxi wrote:
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I came from Original Alien Air, I ride a Nobile Zen Splitboard foil when travelling , have ridden the two Crazy Fly pocket boards but have been riding a Groove Skate for a couple of months. I'm a big guy, 225lbs, riding strapless on a Moses 590/330 101cm. Board is awesome, freakishly light, the scoop helps you on marginal wind starts or if you touch down. I didn't really care for the CF's they have no displacement. The new small Dwarfcraft will certainly be cheaper and easier to get, and the F-One small board looks nice if you have a local dealer.

this rockerline is unmatched by any other pocket board currently available

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I dont understand what you mean?

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The Groove Skate 120 cm I assume.

Any shaper will postulate they got the "perfect" rockerline that NOONE else uses - bull, there are so many equal rockerlines, and on a foilboard the details in the rockerline means a lot less than on a surfboard, BUT really important with the right nose rockerline for given size and use and conditions on a foilboard, true.

I love this type of rockerline too, for pocket boards.

The Skate on your picture above is a tad more flat than the classic Ketos Pocket boards many of us ride.
But it has more "nose scoop" than the Zeeko Pocket board which is more flat yes.

My 118 cm Ketos Pocket board, more curve/rocker than the picture you show:

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And there is a 107 cm Pocket board too, also lots of nose kick in this one:

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The 107 is used by many, but not me.
I use the Pocket 130, when medium or unstable wind, and the 118 when windier or loads of waves:

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Must say I dont understand what you mean by "this rockerline is unmatched by any other pocket board currently available"?

Ketos Pocket boards has been available for years :thumb:


What I am saying is, that there are pocket boards available with both more and less nosekick/scoop/rockerline than your picture of the Groove Skate :naughty:
It looks like an awesome board, true, but I dont get the rockerline claim?

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby Rolavi2 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:58 pm

I enjoy my zeeko mini pocket. I own version 1 and 2.

Nice amount volume, outline and rocker to suit me.
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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby DAnderson » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:09 pm

Peter_Frank wrote:
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Must say I dont understand what you mean by "this rockerline is unmatched by any other pocket board currently available"?
Ketos Pocket boards has been available for years :thumb:
Perhaps that was made in reference to a board available w/ tracks, not KF-box?

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby junebug » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:48 pm

junebug wrote:
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J Shapes (which isn’t on your list).
I wasn't considering a tuttle mount, although their product does look nice.
How would you mount that 633 setup onto a J Shapes?
They will build their boards with a track if you request it.
Does anyone out there have the J Shapes Pocket 100? Looking for feedback.

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:09 pm

DAnderson wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:09 pm
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Must say I dont understand what you mean by "this rockerline is unmatched by any other pocket board currently available"?
Ketos Pocket boards has been available for years :thumb:
Perhaps that was made in reference to a board available w/ tracks, not KF-box?

That might be it yes, could explain :D but not very well put, if so :roll:

I use an adapter if I get a board with a different system than my foils, or opposite, get a foil with a different head than my boards.
Although I prefer the one screw box myself as the fastest to rig and change foil/mast when out daily or more, laziness yes, I know :naughty:

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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby Foxi » Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:00 pm

DAnderson wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:09 pm
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Must say I dont understand what you mean by "this rockerline is unmatched by any other pocket board currently available"?
Ketos Pocket boards has been available for years :thumb:
Perhaps that was made in reference to a board available w/ tracks, not KF-box?
Exactly - and especially fully compliant to Moses Onda which was in focus for many mates seeking .. my Skate was one of the first which was equipped with 2 long tracks rather than 4x setup shown below in their Onda adjusted specs
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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby tswierkocki » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:09 am

A few pictures of my 42” (107 cm) Kanaha Shapes board.
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Re: Dwarfcraft 3’6” vs Groove Skate

Postby Foxi » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:28 am

tswierkocki wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:09 am
A few pictures of my 42” (107 cm) Kanaha Shapes board.
nice ! Picture of the track would be nice ! what´s the weight ?


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