deniska wrote: ↑Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:50 amre-reading your post, I think riding 10m for 9-10kts is a little ambitious..
Yes it works as foils are pretty efficient, but on certain directions, you just don't have enough juice from the kite, imho..
In below 12kts I prefer my 17 Zephyr.. It's not particularly light, but I swear to God I can keep it flying in 5-6kts.. If I can side launch it - it's a session! Around 9-10kts I get good speed and lofty jumps...
i have had liquid force wow v1 and v2’s for foiling and they worked great. lightweight zippy kites and the thin leading edge allowed them to cut up wind nicely. i rode the lf wow v3 10m as well and they changed it and seems much heavier and backstalls in light wind- very disappointed. probably made it stronger for big surf but in 10m size at least they ruined it for foiling. imo.deniska wrote: ↑Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:30 amall kites I have flown would stay up at 9kts (I think the threshold for tubes is 6-7kts, with some specific ones being able to survive 5 kts)
Most of the kites will deep water relaunch at 9-10kts with good technique
I know nothing about LF WOW but I don't see how it would be different...if it backstalls, maybe it's the bar?
Very often, you can mitigate that by looping the kite that is losing tension to keep it in motion and flying..
Again in 9kts most recent kites will fly solid...
Like Clydesdale, I have tried the V1 and V2 WOW and they were great for foiling. My 12m V2 would stay in the air at 7kn and I could foil at 8kn on 29m lines. (I live in the SE USA and our summer winds are HOT.). I got overpowered at 12kn on 23m lines and would switch to my 9m.deniska wrote: ↑Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:30 amall kites I have flown would stay up at 9kts (I think the threshold for tubes is 6-7kts, with some specific ones being able to survive 5 kts)
Most of the kites will deep water relaunch at 9-10kts with good technique
I know nothing about LF WOW but I don't see how it would be different...if it backstalls, maybe it's the bar?
Very often, you can mitigate that by looping the kite that is losing tension to keep it in motion and flying..
Again in 9kts most recent kites will fly solid...
I don't think you can do this with 10m kites in 9kts? (actually, it's probably less than 9 ) or that: I mean I was on 17 today and another guy was on his 9 (cloud).. we both foiled.. but I was going much faster than he did and could jump.. he could not.. 7-9kts day.. very sketchy..Peter_Frank wrote: ↑Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:02 am
If you got a fast wing, racelike maybe, and use short or normal lines, or like jumping, it is very different of course, but for the freeride/freestyle/wave wings a 10 m2 is spot on in 9-10 knots
The 17 m2 Zephyr, eventhough a really good kite, would be useless for many of us when foiling, I think most of us in fact.
Actually, my point is not how powered you want to ride, as this is individual - my point is a 17 m2 LEI makes no sense for most foilers, compared to so many much better alternatives in either a smaller or bigger foilkite, or the light newer LEI kites many prefer for obvious reasons
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