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Re: short lines on tube kites for foiling

Postby Peter_Frank » Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:44 pm

If one wants to use shorter lines, one thing is needed (as above responses show):

Tell yourself you WANT to learn to ride shorter lines, and only use these for a very long time!

As all your timing and backbone transition experience has to be re-learned.

But it will come a lot faster of course, than when learning to foil - but important not to be let down by the initial "This simply doesnt work" feel we all got when changing to shorter lines :roll:

So use a lot of time to see if you prefer the shorter or medium (normal for non-foiling boards) or a bit longer lines (assuming really long lines 30-32 meter only to be for really low winds)

Not many use shorter lines, but a few of the good riders like Frank Rosin does, and I think it is both with foil and LEI kites :thumb:

Racers use shorter lines, but this is to be able to manage bigger kites, so not relevant for free/waveriders.

I have taken some time myself to get used to shorter lines (for me, shorter lines is the std 21-22 m lines on my wavebars), so I got the timing right, but I still did not like it I must say, and went back to 26 meter for all kitesizes in normally powered conditions.
Even in waves I can just fly the kite a bit higher and turn it back and forth, so not slower than shorter lines (like it would be on a surfboard where you need more pull).

Some prefer the shorter lines, so I am also curious as to why, as of course there are advantages?

Frank, you would be able to tell why you prefer the shorter lines, ups and downs of these?

Interesting to hear about experiences with different line lengths for "general riding", especially from those having taken the time to get used to them :naughty:

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Re: short lines on tube kites for foiling

Postby Mossy 757 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:58 pm

Love short lines! Good point Peter, really anything you decide to learn in kiting you should dedicate a long time to so you can progress incrementally.

That said, if you rig short lines and bring extensions, it can be a session saver. 15m lines with 2 sets of 3m extensions covers a HUGE wind range. I haven't ridden shorter than 21m with an inflatable, looking forward to it next time it's 26+ knots

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Re: short lines on tube kites for foiling

Postby Regis-de-giens » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:05 am

Peter_Frank wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:44 pm
Frank, you would be able to tell why you prefer the shorter lines, ups and downs of these?

Interesting to hear about experiences with different line lengths for "general riding", especially from those having taken the time to get used to them :naughty:
Also interested by the feedback of others ; I tried an extreme configuration of 13m lines with a custom 5.5m foil kite this automn (for curiosity and also thinking that it would be homogeneous to reduce line length for such small kite in high winds) ; I found out that wind variations and turbulences were very comfortable because the kite adapts any change in wind force or direction very promptly. However, waterstart was more tricky and I have tried very few transitions, and rarely with loops ; but even for a simple straight ride without transitions, I disliked the need to always check were is the kite in the window to avoid a crash in the water; indeed short line leads to narrow place to move the kite before it hits the water; so combined to an increased agility ( high wind combined with small kite) , this ride was not very "relaxing" :roll:


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