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Re: Foilers vs Kiters proportion now

Postby coffeeking » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:27 pm

Never met a foiler.

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Re: Foilers vs Kiters proportion now

Postby Peert » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:00 pm

Toby wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:11 pm
in Cumbuco Brazil with good winds you have around 80 TT, 20 Surfboards and 5 foils.
This is about what you would see on a Beach in the Netherlands. But some of those 80 TT and 20 SB riders will be on a hydrofoil on a sub 15 knots day..

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Re: Foilers vs Kiters proportion now

Postby andrewjohn » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:34 pm

A couple of years ago round here, (Cornwall, UK) it seemed that everyone was trying foils, but now there’s only a couple of guys on them regularly.
However, we do get waves more often than not so the proportion on surfboards is fairly high, but TT’s rule.

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Re: Foilers vs Kiters proportion now

Postby juandesooka » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:08 pm

NYKiter wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:39 pm
Very good question.

Seems to be folks who look at it as a light wind option and then there are those who strictly ride foil in any situation...

Interesting to see how it somewhat divides the kiting community....kind of like the division between the windsurfers and the kiters.....the foilers vs. the nonfoilers...
And there's the rub ... why do we need to be defined as one thing or another? I see exclusive foilers missing out on high wind days and I see exclusive TT'ers flailing on light wind days. Better to be versatile, use the tool/toy that is more effective and most fun. I bring foil, TT, Sb to the beach and change up with wind conditions and what I feel like ... on any given day I might ride all 3 (rather than kite changes when wind speed varies).

A better question might be: what % of kiters in your location own a foil? I'd say a third to half in my close crew, and about a quarter overall, maybe less.

Funny thing locally is that the windsurf crew have suddenly all taken up windfoiling ... now they are chasing sub 25kt wind again. And just as amusing, they are as grumbly as ever, just now about it being TOO windy. :lol:

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Re: Foilers vs Kiters proportion now

Postby jumptheshark » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:22 am

80% of the time its conditions that force the issue. If you don't foil here you don't get out much. Once into it, it's the better option until your actually powered up on other boards. I never ride my fish anymore, where prior to the foil it was by far my most used board. Nowadays I get more tt days than surfboard.

I'm sure people here think of me as a full time foiler, but I'm just a kiter who wants to get out as much as I can. I absolutely look forward to days on other boards. I just never waste time on them in less than decent conditions.

I feel really fortunate foils happened.

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Re: Foilers vs Kiters proportion now

Postby pikovsg » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:45 am

Here in Boston, Pleasure Bay, foiling and foil freestyle has spread like wildfire.

We went from 3-5 riders two years ago, to many days when it's only foils on the water. Probably around 30-40 foilers now and around 70 kiters. About 2/3 of those kiters have foils. Many more are talking about investing in one. Quite a few are progressing fast and we're seeing boosting, full rodeos, 360s, loops and wave riding on a regular basis. Group progression is great and keeps everyone evolving, it has become a fantastic community! We're setting up a race course with buoys and hoping start foil racing this spring. Can't say enough good things about where the sport is heading! Come check it out!

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Re: Foilers vs Kiters proportion now

Postby Foil » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:52 am

coffeeking wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:27 pm
Never met a foiler.
I did meet a twin tip guy down at New Brighton during the week who checked out my foil as I was setting up and he asked what is was, as he had never seen one before.
Mad or what? :-o

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Re: Foilers vs Kiters proportion now

Postby TomW » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:35 am

Area: southern Sweden
Proportions: 84:14:2 ( totally un scientific)
It's growing, slowly. I've talked to 3-4 that wanted advice then went and bought foils.
I get a lot of questions on the beach too. Seeing someone do it live, who's doing flying transitions ( even tho I'm just intermediate) really changes people's minds about it.
It's a big step from TT, mentally and cost wise.

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Re: Foilers vs Kiters proportion now

Postby PullStrings » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:32 pm

Foilers 4% vs Kiters 96% worldwide
Just like
Ram airs 4% vs Tubes 96% worldwide



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Re: Foilers vs Kiters proportion now

Postby jyka » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:28 pm

Low wind days, maybe one guy is NOT a hydrofoiler. He's fighting to get upwind :P
When the wind is better, there aren't many foils. At least 90% are twintips and surfboards.

Some low wind inland / lake areas, most of the kiters own a hydrofoil and use them on low wind days.
I have never been so excited to hydrofoiling, but it's still more fun than a big slow kite and door twintip. When the wind is more than 15 knots, I switch to twintip.
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