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Re: Moses 2019

Postby caps » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:17 pm

I’ve been on a 633/DC 4’6” for over a year and not even set all the way back. My fav position is set at 1.5 on the track. And that would be with 2 front straps set all the way forward. Super, enjoyable setup. Cheers!
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:09 pm

Looking for couple of kite foiling reports if someone has feedback to share on:
- 900 wing on 647 fuselage with 330/420/425 stabilizer
- 720 wing on 710 with 450 stabilizer
- 633/683s wing with 420/425 stabilizer

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby ap888 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:36 pm

If anyone wanted to know.. have been jumping 683s quite a lot lately with very hard landings holding up fine :thumb:

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby dave1986 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:34 pm

Is there any issue with jumping on the 633 wing? I've not tried yet, but should I have any concerns about damaging the wing?

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby DAnderson » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:32 pm

1st session on the 720, w/ the 749 & 483. 12 to 18 mph on 12m soul.
Just first impression as I haven't spent much time on it, about an hour.
Better low end vs the 590. The 590 can drop off foil abruptly ~8-9mph; while the 720 does drop, it's probably in the 5-6mph range.
I only pushed it a little, it felt "shaky?" ~20mph, a bit disappointing in that regard. Certainly not a locked-in feel. Playful.
Hoping for a one-fuselage multiple front-wing setup, wishing it was just a bigger 590 for the sup fuse.
Going to swap stab's for the next venture.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby elguapo » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:36 pm

any brave soul try a 900 wing yet?

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Qiter » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:40 am

One for the 2020 wish list: A modulable mast system! It would make traveling SO MUCH easier (and give you more options depending on water depth).

One 70cm "base" mast to attach the wing (fits most normal suitcases or bags) and then 10-20cm extension parts that would go in the boardmount, which could bring your mast up to the desired length.
I am not sure why no manufacturer has come up with something like this yet. It should not be too difficult from an engineering point of view..
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby cor » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:55 pm

Qiter wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:40 am
I am not sure why no manufacturer has come up with something like this yet. It should not be too difficult from an engineering point of view..
It will make the mast heavier, less stiff and more expensive while only a handful of people might actually looking for such a solution. That's why.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:52 pm

So Tucker from MacKite brought the 720 to KOGL Test fest and i'm glad I had a chance to demo it.

First attempt - replacing 683s with 720 (on 710 fuselage, 450 stabilizer shimmed by 2 degrees, 105cm mast and 36" Tim Gibbs's "woody" board)
The wing handles decent low starting pop-up speed - maybe a tad more speed needed compared to 683s, goes not as fast as 590, better upwind than 683s but not feeling faster than 683s and is stable above/beyond stability I'm looking for. Anyone scared off by "skatey" feeling of 683s would enjoy stability of 720

Feeling - nice wing, but not overly impressed. Tucker says - ride it with 325 stabilizer, it will feel faster.

Second attempt - 720 with 325 stabilizer (on 749 fuselage, 105cm mast and 36" Tim Gibbs's "woody" board)
Feels like mast needs to be moved forward, I'm pushing my feet back a lot, needed to go faster to fly (probably from missing a bit of back foot pressure) and certainly missing pitch stability.

Overall it's a nice wing, faster than 633 if anyone is looking for complimentary wing to 633 to be used with same fuselage. I would love to try it again with race stabilizer - 420 or 425 but I'll keep riding my 683s

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:45 pm

dave1986 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:09 pm
grigorib wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:52 pm
short review from past weekend at KOGL here

viewtopic.php?p=1070445#p1070445
So would you say that the 590/330 has a faster top speed and more manoevreable compared with the 720? Whereas the 720/483 is more locked-in for straight line cruising?

How would you compare the 590/330 vs 720/483 for low-end speed?
590/330 would need more speed to pop-up on the wing, is more loose, and needs higher speed to stay flying.

720 with surf stabilizer (I flew it with 450) feels lowendish and very locked-in (maybe too much for me) but is slower too

Again, 720 is a great complimentary, faster wing for folks who have 633 or 790. I’ll stay with 683s and 590 as at 200 lbs these are great pair
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