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Re: Moses 2019

Postby PurdyKiter » Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:26 am

DAnderson wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:10 pm
re 590: I have read somewhere another needed to make modifications for the 483 on kite fuse, although I did not. imo, 330 felt too skatey, 483 was more stable & slightly better low end. currently happy on 590 w/ 420
That was me. 2016 Ghost Whisperer fuse with previously a 330 stabilizer. The contour of the 483 would not seat in perfectly so I had to do 30 minutes of very delicate filing. Now this setup is my favorite. But I'm going to try a 450 soon.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:25 pm

dave1986 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:52 pm
More photos

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So the wing which is flying up will hang on 3 bolts instead of being fixed in place by 3 bolts and push onto fuselage?
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Labskaus » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:32 am

Look at the Moses 2020 line :cool2:
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Labskaus » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:48 am

Labskaus wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:32 am
Look at the Moses 2020 line :cool2:
The Moses people do not wait and come before slingshots new line ,we will waiting and look. :rollgrin:

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby a99 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:33 am

It's already all 2020 line published in their website https://store.moseshydrofoil.com lot of new wings also few new masts !
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby NYKiter » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:08 pm

How did they sell out of a majority of the kite foils already??

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby a99 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:23 pm

Do you mean 2020 line or 2019 thei sold ? lot of 2019 wings and even earlier are in their stock.
2020 line will start only from 2019 December for purchases. Still i don't understand what is reason to make now 106 mast to having 101 and 111 cm lenght masts ? Such big need for 106 cm mast ? Why :)? Big difference in 5 cm :)?? Better they released somthing as 122cm mast, there will be much bigger interest i think or at least 119 cm mast.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby evan » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:42 pm

a99 wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:23 pm
Do you mean 2020 line or 2019 thei sold ? lot of 2019 wings and even earlier are in their stock.
2020 line will start only from 2019 December for purchases. Still i don't understand what is reason to make now 106 mast to having 101 and 111 cm lenght masts ? Such big need for 106 cm mast ? Why :)? Big difference in 5 cm :)?? Better they released somthing as 122cm mast, there will be much bigger interest i think or at least 119 cm mast.
Somewhere between 105-110 cm seems to be the best length for racing masts, where the compromise between length, Stiffness and profile thickness/drag turns out to be the best for drag vs control.
Longer masts require more thickness or else they are bending so much that you also can't push as fast as a shorter mast.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby oregonkiter » Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:50 pm

683S out of the line up...?

Glad I have one

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:11 pm

Last year it was October when I hoped for new line to appear but 2019 been quite gradual addition.
2020 line is out and looking at amount of knowledge in the thread I'm renaming it.

Here's what's new
- 695 kite wing (770 sq.cm) as a “22% bigger than 590”. It actually looks like bigger 548
- 548 is gone
- 718 kite wing (740 sq.cm) - looks identical to 720 Balz Pro I played with at KOGL but for 647 fuselage
- 679 surf wing (990 sq.cm) - a tad smaller than 1008 sq.cm of 683s. However no tail in the back. I wonder if it sits further back than 683s
- 683s is gone
- 1100 surf wing (2100 sq.cm)
- 800 windsurf wing (840 sq.cm)
- 1000 windsurf wing (1100 sq.cm) Same area as 873 but higher aspect and I bet it will be a better wing

New race 670/604/421 wing/fuselage/stabilizer (incompatible with current fuselage) and old 645/425 race setup is gone

72cm mast
82cm mast (hurray!)
95cm Tuttle mast
106cm Tuttle mast
95cm aluminum mast

On my personal note:
- Finally I have an option of 82cm mast (as replacement of both 80cm aluminum and 91cm carbon) for quite a while to compliment my 106cm mast.
- 695 kite wing seems to be not swept back enough so alike 548 it'll catch all the damn seaweed, but exciting overall
- 679 surf wing could be a cool thing to play with
- I'm really curious abouth thickness of 675 and 679 wings. Are they thin similarly to 550/683s or thicker like 548/633?
- I'm still cautiously excited about use of 425/421 race stabilizer for 590/695 - hopefully enabling lower end for those
- New race fuselage seems like an attempt to separate race setup off and maybe merge kite and surf lines (fuselage compatibility) in 2021
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