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Postby gmb13 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:25 pm
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Postby grigorib » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:38 pm
...I should have paid more attention to the title
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Postby gmb13 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:42 pm
grigorib wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:38 pm
gmb13 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:25 pm
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Is it 718/421? Stabilizer looks to be race and wing looks like 558 but I guess you’d be riding some fresh wings now
I’d bet 718/421 would be lightwindish and really “locked” and I’d be curious to hear feedback on 695 wing compared to 590
Umm? It says in the title "W695" it's with the 420 stab
The 695 is a whole other level of low end and stability compared to the 590.
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Postby grigorib » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:48 pm
gmb13 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:42 pm
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The 695 is a whole other level of low end and stability compared to the 590.
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How much of added stability do you think is from 420 instead of 330 stabilizer?
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Postby gmb13 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:59 pm
grigorib wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:48 pm
gmb13 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:42 pm
grigorib wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:38 pm
Is it 718/421? Stabilizer looks to be race and wing looks like 558 but I guess you’d be riding some fresh wings now
I’d bet 718/421 would be lightwindish and really “locked” and I’d be curious to hear feedback on 695 wing compared to 590
Umm? It says in the title "W695" it's with the 420 stab
The 695 is a whole other level of low end and stability compared to the 590.
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How much of added stability do you think is from 420 instead of 330 stabilizer?
Not much. I tried the 695 and 590 with the 330, 420 and 325. I found the 695 both a lot more balanced with the 420. Made it a lot easier to push it more. Also for carving the 420 felt more agile and less pitchy. That said, the 590 it fun too, but needs more wind and is just not as roll stable as the 695.
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Postby grigorib » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:05 am
gmb13 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:59 pm
grigorib wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:48 pm
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How much of added stability do you think is from 420 instead of 330 stabilizer?
Not much. I tried the 695 and 590 with the 330, 420 and 325. I found the 695 both a lot more balanced with the 420. Made it a lot easier to push it more. Also for carving the 420 felt more agile and less pitchy. That said, the 590 it fun too, but needs more wind and is just not as roll stable as the 695.
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So you’re saying that 695 vs 590 is major difference and race stabilizer makes less impact on lowend but rather on pitch stability?
Do you think it’s worth riding 590 with 420 stabilizer instead of 330?
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Postby Wazza Foil » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:57 am
gmb13 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:25 pm
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I am sure you can and have done on the 683 and other wings with your skill so not really a promo for that wing.
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Postby Brian H » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:21 pm
Gunnar could you tell us about that board you are riding ?
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Postby grigorib » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:16 pm
Wazza Foil wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:57 am
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I am sure you can and have done on the 683 and other wings with your skill so not really a promo for that wing.
Well, I consider it was specifically Gunnar’s “kitefoiling on 633” video in January 2018 which fired the starting gun for 633 true success. Moses should be giving him all kind of wings just to shoot videos on them and write some feedback
I hope 695 rocks as larger wing for folks with kite fuselage. 718 should do too, but its “nearest twin“ 720 felt way too locked in.
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Postby gmb13 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:39 pm
Brian H wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:21 pm
Gunnar could you tell us about that board you are riding ?
It is a board I designed for Indiana Paddle and Surf.
It is 120 x 48 x 35 cm. 2,8kg. V-Strap insert holes. Full Carbon Sandwich.
The Tracks will be farther forward than in the graphic. They will start at 12cm from the tail.
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