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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby Wazza Foil » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:57 am

gmb13 wrote:
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I am sure you can and have done on the 683 and other wings with your skill so not really a promo for that wing.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby Brian H » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:21 pm

Gunnar could you tell us about that board you are riding ?
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:16 pm

Wazza Foil wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:57 am
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Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:25 pm
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I am sure you can and have done on the 683 and other wings with your skill so not really a promo for that wing.
Well, I consider it was specifically Gunnar’s “kitefoiling on 633” video in January 2018 which fired the starting gun for 633 true success. Moses should be giving him all kind of wings just to shoot videos on them and write some feedback :)

I hope 695 rocks as larger wing for folks with kite fuselage. 718 should do too, but its “nearest twin“ 720 felt way too locked in.
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby gmb13 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:39 pm

Brian H wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:21 pm
Gunnar could you tell us about that board you are riding ?
It is a board I designed for Indiana Paddle and Surf.

It is 120 x 48 x 35 cm. 2,8kg. V-Strap insert holes. Full Carbon Sandwich.

The Tracks will be farther forward than in the graphic. They will start at 12cm from the tail.
Screenshot 2019-12-01 at 21.40.34.jpg
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby gmb13 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:47 pm

Wazza Foil wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:57 am
gmb13 wrote:
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I am sure you can and have done on the 683 and other wings with your skill so not really a promo for that wing.
Actually no. The 683 is not as fast of smooth as the 695. The 633 is better than the 683, but the 633 is not a great jumper, it does not accelerate as well as the 695 which makes jumping any decent hight, even powered up, difficult to achieve. The 695 jumps easier and also lands easier than the other Foils. The Comet and Havok jump just as well, but are much harder to land foiling.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:12 pm

gmb13 wrote:
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The 633 is better than the 683, but the 633 is not a great jumper, it does not accelerate as well as the 695...
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For me 683s feels that it accelerates faster than 633, as it’s thinner and has higher “average high” speed and is a lot of fun to ride.
Why do you think the 633 is better than 683(s)?

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby gmb13 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:15 pm

grigorib wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:12 pm
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Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:47 pm
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The 633 is better than the 683, but the 633 is not a great jumper, it does not accelerate as well as the 695...
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For me 683s feels that it accelerates faster than 633, as it’s thinner and has higher “average high” speed and is a lot of fun to ride.
Why do you think the 633 is better than 683(s)?
Because the 683 is not as stable, not does it have the speed range of the 633. I find the 683 has a bit of an unpredictable stall. This makes it difficult to land foiling consistently. The 633 is pretty much impossible not to land foiling and recovers from stalls and breaches better than the 683 too.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby dave1986 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:41 pm

Hi Gunnar.

I understand that the 695 wing is very similar to the 550 in it's shape, apart from the 695 is larger. (550 = 600cm², 695 = 770cm²)

I'd like to understand how the 695 compares with the 590wing and 550 wings for low-end speed/ top-end speed/ carving/ surf style... etc.....
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby tkaraszewski » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:43 pm

Gunnar is making me want a 695 even more than I already wanted a 695. Maybe I can pre-order one at my local dealer. Never mind that it's snowing and not windy here.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:46 am

720, which is pretty much same wing as 718 rode amazingly well with larger, 450 stabilizer for me. Early takeoff, low lowend, but too much stability for my liking of skater wing.
Tucker was swearing by 720/325 combo but I didn’t like it as it seemed to lose the lowend advantage and felt way more pitch-sensitive.

After two years we’re finally getting two larger wings for 647 fuselage and I can only get excited about these!


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