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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:32 pm

dave1986 wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:12 am
For all those people looking for a Moses/SABfoil front wing between the 950 and 1100 it looks like an option is now available.

https://ensis.surf/product/pacer/

Ensis hydrofoils appear to be manufactured by SABfoil, and compatible with SABfoil parts, but the wings are available in different sizes. 1700, 2000 and 2400.
All spacing fitting 749/710/700-HS fuselages? What are the mounting bolt diameter used?
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby dave1986 » Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:21 pm

grigorib wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:32 pm

All spacing fitting 749/710/700-HS fuselages? What are the mounting bolt diameter used?
My guess is that it's identical to the 710 fuselage, and with m6 bolts. But I could be wrong.
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:06 pm

dave1986 wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:21 pm
grigorib wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:32 pm

All spacing fitting 749/710/700-HS fuselages? What are the mounting bolt diameter used?
My guess is that it's identical to the 710 fuselage, and with m6 bolts. But I could be wrong.
Yes their fuselage is 710 which has M6 holes. Must be identical to Moses 710.
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:16 am

Also Slingshot has released 926/928 wings of 1233/2343 (corrected) sq.cm area respectively, both fitting surf fuselage

Updating compatibility list again

viewtopic.php?p=1075851#p1075851
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby addictedtofoil » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:00 am

grigorib wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:16 am
Also Slingshot has released 926/928 wings of 1214/2298 sq.cm area respectively, both fitting surf fuselage

Updating compatibility list again

viewtopic.php?p=1075851#p1075851
926 is 1233cm2. This looks great for winging! Any feedback on this wing yet?

Why don't Slingshot disclose the aspect ratio of the 926? Can't find it on their website.

What size bolts does the slingshot 710 use M6 or M8? Their website isn't that good for finding this information out about the 710 fuselage

Thanks for the update. How does the phantasm 730 compare with the moses W800? I really like the 800/400 combo for kiting, so much fun carving chop when drifting foil kite and can go as fast as I want, probably the only foil you need for kiting. I rarely use any other foil for kiting.

Is it worth selling the 800 and replacing with the 730?

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:50 pm

addictedtofoil wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:00 am
grigorib wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:16 am
Also Slingshot has released 926/928 wings of 1214/2298 sq.cm area respectively, both fitting surf fuselage

Updating compatibility list again

viewtopic.php?p=1075851#p1075851
926 is 1233cm2. This looks great for winging! Any feedback on this wing yet?

Why don't Slingshot disclose the aspect ratio of the 926? Can't find it on their website.

What size bolts does the slingshot 710 use M6 or M8? Their website isn't that good for finding this information out about the 710 fuselage

Thanks for the update. How does the phantasm 730 compare with the moses W800? I really like the 800/400 combo for kiting, so much fun carving chop when drifting foil kite and can go as fast as I want, probably the only foil you need for kiting. I rarely use any other foil for kiting.

Is it worth selling the 800 and replacing with the 730?
You’re right. The webpage says 1233 sq.cm and 2343 for 928.
The AR is 6.95
Bolts are M6 if I recall it right

I’m riding Moses/compatible gear and don’t plan to switch to Phantasm yet. It’s impossible to get Phantasm individual parts yet and pricing is not attractive to buy a bunch of full sets

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby LeoLeal » Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:57 pm

Besides Gunnar does anyone have any impression about W1250 or w945?

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:50 pm

LeoLeal wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:57 pm
Besides Gunnar does anyone have any impression about W1250 or w945?
Laszlo Karai from @kitehydrofoilmiami has been riding 945 recently and posting feedback on Instagram.
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby LeoLeal » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:03 pm

Grigorib, I saw your compatible list but I would like to know why a w1250 does not fit FS 710 if all other new wings fit?

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:06 pm

LeoLeal wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:03 pm
Grigorib, I saw your compatible list but I would like to know why a w1250 does not fit FS 710 if all other new wings fit?
710 fuselage uses M6 bolts and new wings are sold with M8 bolts plus adapter washers to use for old fuselages. The 1250 doesn’t come with adapter washers (as listed on the Sabfool website).
It technically would fit the 749/710 fuselages if you buy adapter washers separately but would probably break the M6 bolts being such a huge wing.


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