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watercamper
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- Gear: Slingshot 4,5,6,7,8 UFO V2; 3, 9m V1.1
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Lift Classic 150, 101 cm mast
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Postby watercamper » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:49 pm
Grigorib, item 4 on your compatibility list says that there is a 8-6 mm washer adaptor available so that you could use the W699 on the 647 fuselage for example. Can you give me a link to this item? Thx!
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plasma180
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Postby plasma180 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:03 pm
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grigorib
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- Local Beach: OBX; Clinton Lake, IL; Lake Michigan; Hood River; La Ventana; Ocean Park, PR; SPI; Tawas, MI
- Gear: Kites: Slingshot Rally 5/7/9/11m, Turbine 9/13m, SST 4/5m, UFO 3/5/7/9m, Flysurfer Speed4 10m standard, Flysurfer 2cool 6m, Peter Lynn Venom II ARC 16m
Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x
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Postby grigorib » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:06 pm
watercamper wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:49 pm
Grigorib, item 4 on your compatibility list says that there is a 8-6 mm washer adaptor available so that you could use the W699 on the 647 fuselage for example. Can you give me a link to this item? Thx!
It’s just a cone washer allowing wings with 8mm holes to be mounted onto
surf fuselages with 6mm holes.
699 fits heavy, surf fuselage and won’t work with 647 without an adapter
viewtopic.php?p=1180485#p1180485
Doable and I can send you one, yet at your weight I’d stay with kite wings like 800 or 730 without adding extra weight and bulk
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watercamper
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- Local Beach: US: the Columbia river Gorge, lower Columbia river, Oregon coast. Mexico: La Ventana (Rasta beach in El Sargento) BCS
- Style: Foil mostly, Surf, TT on the ocean
- Gear: Slingshot 4,5,6,7,8 UFO V2; 3, 9m V1.1
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Flysurfer Peak4, 4, 5, 6, 8: Peak5, 4
Flysurfer Hybrid 3.5
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Liquid Force Mission Control bars modified for foil with Infexion seat belt, DIY lines
Ocean Rodeo click bar
Lift Classic 150, 101 cm mast
Sabfoil W590/S330, 101 cm mast; W550/S325; W679/S483
Slingshot 2020 107cm micro Dwarf Craft board strapless, 11 liter
Slingshot 2022 100 cm Dwarf Craft, strapless, 11 liter
4'10" Firewire Evo Helium
Cabrinha 137 n 141 Tronic
Mystic, Ion, O'Neill, Buell, Patagonia, Pro-Tec, Liros, Infexion
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Postby watercamper » Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:49 am
Ok. Thx 4 the info as always!
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Adventure Logs
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Postby Adventure Logs » Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:31 pm
Ok so I've convinced myself it's finally time to update my foil equipment but really have no clue which way to go and the lack of ability to demo has me cautious on which way to go. I've been riding the 633 now for like 5 years and absolutely love it. I love the low end of it with the ability to basically stop my forward movement and still be able to turn on foil or keep going with a pump or two. I like to ride the swell down here in SPI and greatly enjoy the quick turning ability. Don't like the big surf fuse and since mines starting to corrode, time to replace that as well.
I need something that's pretty sturdy since I constantly seem to bottom out(and that's not going to change). I've gone through 2 633 front wings and my current one is looking pretty janky with a destroyed wing tip and pretty damaged leading edge(yet it keeps on foiling). I'm planning on upgrading my mast to a Cedrus once they get off holiday so I'm not restricted to SAB but have had good luck with Moses so still is my first choice. I'm using a 420(I think) knock of rear stab which has held up pretty well and my board is a custom 90cm Groove Wave board.
So looking for suggestions...again something with the stability of the 633 with as good/better low end and turning speed and nothing fragile because I'll destroy it within a couple sessions. Thanks.
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IWantToFly
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Kanaha Shapes 42” (106cm)
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Postby IWantToFly » Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:02 am
Adventure Logs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:31 pm
Ok so I've convinced myself it's finally time to update my foil equipment but really have no clue which way to go and the lack of ability to demo has me cautious on which way to go.
Find someone to give you a demo of the Triton T1. Only problem is the compatibility with the Project Cedrus mast is not awesome. You can get an old Moses adapter, but that will give you M6 bolts and is not ideal. Or you can enlongate the front hole of the T1. I’ve talked with Kyle about making a T1-specific adapter but haven’t ponied up the money to pay for a new adapter design. At the moment I also have the Triton mast until I figure out a PC solution. You would be able to keep riding your current Moses mast with the T1 so you at least have options, too.
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Postby Sbrinckman » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:59 am
IWantToFly wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:02 am
Adventure Logs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:31 pm
Ok so I've convinced myself it's finally time to update my foil equipment but really have no clue which way to go and the lack of ability to demo has me cautious on which way to go.
Find someone to give you a demo of the Triton T1. Only problem is the compatibility with the Project Cedrus mast is not awesome. You can get an old Moses adapter, but that will give you M6 bolts and is not ideal. Or you can enlongate the front hole of the T1. I’ve talked with Kyle about making a T1-specific adapter but haven’t ponied up the money to pay for a new adapter design. At the moment I also have the Triton mast until I figure out a PC solution. You would be able to keep riding your current Moses mast with the T1 so you at least have options, too.
+1 on that. I am using the PC mast with Triton T1. For me solid enough. Not doing jumps on strapless board. I had to elongated front hole to make it fit.
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aniva
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RDB trigger board 120cm
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Postby aniva » Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:03 pm
by the way what is the price range for Cedrus classic mast say 93cm, I can't see prices on their site at the moment
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Postby airsail » Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:09 pm
Adventure Logs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:31 pm
So looking for suggestions...again something with the stability of the 633 with as good/better low end and turning speed and nothing fragile because I'll destroy it within a couple sessions. Thanks.
North are making a big impact at our local, full carbon, perfect workmanship, they look great. And I’m told they are about to release a 95cm mast for kitefoil. No idea how fragile they are, but North have a wealth of knowledge building race yachts so their tech would be very good.
But I’m heavily invested in Naish so won’t be changing anytime soon.
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OR Mako 140
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Postby IWantToFly » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:13 am
aniva wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:03 pm
by the way what is the price range for Cedrus classic mast say 93cm, I can't see prices on their site at the moment
The classic masts have been $1000 regardless of length. You do need a board mount ($120+), and an adapter ($120) or fuse (~$350) to make it work with most foils. I’m not sure if Kyle’s prices on the mast have gone up but that’s what they were previously.
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