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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby handy » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:50 am

grigorib wrote: by grigorib » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:40 am
Am I the only one who sees 483 stabilizer with wingtips up on new 2020 assembled foil pictures?
don't know if you are the only one, but the 483 stab stays the same as 2019, no winglets.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby Oldman » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:24 pm

The moses website classifies both 695 & 633 wings for waves. However the wing shapes are so different.
Does anyone know why?
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby handy » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:56 pm

Oldman wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:24 pm
The moses website classifies both 695 & 633 wings for waves. However the wing shapes are so different.
Does anyone know why?
Thank you
663 is for the 710 fuselage and 695 is for the 647 fuselage.

Chord has to be much shorter to fit the 647 fuselage

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:04 pm

Oldman wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:24 pm
The moses website classifies both 695 & 633 wings for waves. However the wing shapes are so different.
Does anyone know why?
Thank you
They had to come up with names and I guess it’s the best they could. Note that 633 with Alu mast is labeled as Freeride and it’s same wave setup :)

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby oregonkiter » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:49 pm

Nice catch on rear stab Grigor. When I bought my 633 SS setup in the summer of 2018, the diagram in the instruction sheet also had t the stab with tips up, which was not correct. I think it's an incorrect diagram file that keeps getting shuffled along

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby TomW » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:22 pm

I got a comparison of 679 to 633 wing on Facebook. I'll stick to the 633...
Not willing to give to up turning radius for a few more knots speed and lower take off

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:37 pm

TomW wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:22 pm
I got a comparison of 679 to 633 wing on Facebook. I'll stick to the 633...
Not willing to give to up turning radius for a few more knots speed and lower take off
May I ask for a copy-paste please?

Curious about wing thickness and how does it fit the fuselage too (683s has a gap by the leading edge and has a tiny tail to cover whole crossing of wing/fuselage area)

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby Wazza Foil » Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:20 am

grigorib wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:37 pm
TomW wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:22 pm
I got a comparison of 679 to 633 wing on Facebook. I'll stick to the 633...
Not willing to give to up turning radius for a few more knots speed and lower take off
May I ask for a copy-paste please?

Curious about wing thickness and how does it fit the fuselage too (683s has a gap by the leading edge and has a tiny tail to cover whole crossing of wing/fuselage area)
My 683s also had the gap however it went after a few months of use and no issue with performance.
A friend who was a dedicated 633 guy bought a 683 and the 633 is now collecting dust.
So different things for different people and we are spoilt for choice.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby dave1986 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:23 am

Any idea why the 683S has been discontinued and replaced with the 679? These 2 wings seem very similar in size and shape.
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby Wazza Foil » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:07 am

dave1986 wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:23 am
Any idea why the 683S has been discontinued and replaced with the 679? These 2 wings seem very similar in size and shape.
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