Moses SABfoil

[TomW]

Euro / dollar exchange rate kicks in.
High demand in all markets= can't make enough to fulfill demand despite opening new and bigger factory.

[grigorib]

Euro / dollar exchange rate kicks in.
High demand in all markets= can't make enough to fulfill demand despite opening new and bigger factory.

USD/EUR rate today is about same as in summer-fall 2017 when I was buying 548 wing and making notes of Moses components pricing.

I haven't seen sales data but I'd say kitefoil (and surffoil gear used for kiting) must be the major money maker compared to windsurf sector. But windsurf gear took priority to be designed and produced and that is capacity which could have been used to make more of gear that sells so well.

[TomW]

You're probably right about the exchange rate, but there's a huge lag in manufacturing transferring the creating increase of costs to the consumer.
Demand is high as you say, and development and manufacturing bandwidth is the bottleneck in expanding market.
Moses is doing a fantastic job of dealing with the scaling up in my opinion.

[tomtom]

Interesting debate for economic naive observer. Without irony if in doubt

[cwood]

My Havok wing and stab are mounted and will give them a try today! They look great!
They feel much more solid so I suspect less foam core and stronger.

[grigorib]

Very pretty!

[grigorib]

I don't get it, why not just move your feet 50mm up or move the mast 50mm back? honest question

is it to use with an old board that the tracks are to far fwd with foot straps?

Couple of reasons:
- even though I’m riding strapless, my feet have that happy place to stand. Back foot against the kicker and front foot knows where to step So switching from 590 to 633 takes moving the mast which is inconvenient.
- a friend of mine is a tall guy and his board doesn’t allow moving mast more back
- it’s spring and I want new gear! I’d buy a 81cm mast a between-590-and-633 wing for 647 mast, a 710 fuselage, a 450 stabilizer but none of that is available.

So I’m calling it 743 fuselage
One correction- mast is 40mm forward

Some more of fuselage porn

The fuselage worked awesome - pretty much allowing to mount mast 40mm forward - for boards which need it

[live2play]

My Havok wing and stab are mounted and will give them a try today! They look great!
They feel much more solid so I suspect less foam core and stronger.

Did you get a chance to try out the new Havok wings?

[cwood]

My Havok wing and stab are mounted and will give them a try today! They look great!
They feel much more solid so I suspect less foam core and stronger.

Did you get a chance to try out the new Havok wings?

I did, one session in quite wavy conditions. Started with them at the same mast position as 637, came in 3 times to adjust mast forward in 1/4 inch increments and ended up an inch ahead. May go further as I like a bit more up bias. The differences are subtle but I would say:
- More neutral in general. (the 637 I find gets harder to keep in the water at upper end....speed and lift outrun the stab somewhat). It would seem that the larger stab is better balanced with the wing.
- More graceful recovery from ventilation
- Seems to fly a bit earlier but I have not tested the low end much yet
- Overall just more predictable behavior and more stable
- I think on average, a bit faster based on gps data and how many times I touched 40kph.
- Maneuverability seems about same, maybe a little less responsive on carves.
- Boosting performance was good. Had me a 50 ft session first time out

More sessions needed.

[Oldman]

Have you tried 637 with 425?
Does it work better?
Thanks