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Postby grigorib » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:02 pm
a99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:40 pm
Probably huge success with 633 compensated enough all 683 and 639 wings market losses, nobody bought them as all wanted 633. Strange that moses product testers dont understand that 633 much better goes for kiting than surf
even as kiting wings market much bigger than surf wings
I don't think it's only about product testers. I think them and designers just didn't know and were closing their eyes on success of bigger/thicker 548 and made only minor move from 548 to 590 (just as move from 550 to 548). They forgot about people complaining on 2015 high area, low aspect wing disappearance. In the same timeframe MHL also dropped to 110 osprey wing but realized the mistake and revamped to 130->150->170 sq.in sizes understanding demand for large kite wings.
I started topic "who are the foilers" and got replies i didn't expect - on European windsurfing market being still alive and active and somehow wakefoiling being the biggest foil market (my brain still refuses believe that claim)
I hope Moses made their buck selling windfoils but I also hope standardization of kite/surf/windfoil gear will lead to standard stabilizer mount shape (holes are, surface is not) and hopefully to standard kite/surf fuselage. Cabrinha apparently realized need for standard, market will drive other to do the same.
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Postby grigorib » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:26 pm
Please post a review and comparison to 590 if possible
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Postby DAnderson » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:28 pm
Not mine. Pics swiped from Balz Muller's Facebook page. Notice the name on the wing.
I thought those appeared higher aspect than the previous photos.
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Postby elguapo » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:59 pm
Séb wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:05 pm
I just ordered the W720 wing to put on my Onda fuselage and test to see how much faster it is, i hope it can be similar to my 590. The 633 and 720 could be a great combo with one fuselage.
where are yall finding the 720?
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Postby NYKiter » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:29 pm
Can you show a pic next to the 683?
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Postby Séb » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:02 am
elguapo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:59 pm
where are yall finding the 720?
It’s not on their website yet, i just ask them if it was available to order after i saw the published picture from their Instagram.
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Postby grigorib » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:23 am
Few more cool toys from Moses
900 aluminum windfoil fuselage
1100 windfoil fuselage (race setup)
900 windfoil wing 1025 sq.cm (race setup) and looks compatible with 647 fuselage
I’d love to try kitefoiling on the 900
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Postby elguapo » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:36 am
i saw that 900 wing.... (while looking for the 720)
..it should fit the surf(710) fuselage?
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Postby grigorib » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:42 pm
elguapo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:36 am
i saw that 900 wing.... (while looking for the 720)
..it should fit the surf(710) fuselage?
From how it looks I’d say it would only fit the 1100 and 647/680 fuselages
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