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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Brizair10 » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:12 pm

:D :clap: Hey, i got it !
The new 633 has a "blue print" on it... that´s different...

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:29 pm

There’s also 647 fuselage for aluminum kit listed
https://www.westcoastkiters.at/produkt- ... l/teile_5/

I really hope wings become more standard, rather than less so

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby jumptheshark » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:14 pm

What is the weight of the onda 91 633 in carbon?

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:33 pm

jumptheshark wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:14 pm
What is the weight of the onda 91 633 in carbon?
2018 633/749/483 set is 4.0 lbs
2018 91cm mast 3.4 lbs.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby jumptheshark » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:15 pm

7.4 lbs for total foil ?

Thanks.

Thats only 1.4 lbs lighter than my zeeko alloy foil. I wonder what the weight difference will be between their carbon and alloy set up.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:31 pm

jumptheshark wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:15 pm
7.4 lbs for total foil ?

Thanks.

Thats only 1.4 lbs lighter than my zeeko alloy foil. I wonder what the weight difference will be between their carbon and alloy set up.
What is wing area and mast size of your Zeeko alloy setup?
The 590/647/330 is only 2.9 lbs so wing size (and heavier fuselage in case of 749) matters.

I believe major goal for alloy setup is to bring strong competition in lower-cost market. Many people would rethink carbon mast option if they can save $500 on aluminum mast. But many would still count weight and enjoy lightweight setup to ride, travel with (and flash to others).

For a long time aluminum sets came with bulky fuselages and it's awesome to see this trend change.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby jumptheshark » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:37 pm

Last year's set up was the carver wing (710cm) and their standard 90 cm mast. 8.8 lbs

Going to a 1200cm wing this season that weighs the same as the carver wing and cutting the mast down closer to 81cm.

Will drop a few grams, but its still going to be close to 8.5 lbs

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:12 am

jumptheshark wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:37 pm
Last year's set up was the carver wing (710cm) and their standard 90 cm mast. 8.8 lbs

Going to a 1200cm wing this season that weighs the same as the carver wing and cutting the mast down closer to 81cm.

Will drop a few grams, but its still going to be close to 8.5 lbs
Then I’d compare your setup to
2018 590/647/330 (633 sq.cm) set 2.9 lbs.
2018 91cm mast 3.4 lbs.
Total 6.3 lbs

But I agree, your set is pretty light as it is

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby max » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:47 am

jumptheshark wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:37 pm
Last year's set up was the carver wing (710cm) and their standard 90 cm mast. 8.8 lbs

Going to a 1200cm wing this season that weighs the same as the carver wing and cutting the mast down closer to 81cm.

Will drop a few grams, but its still going to be close to 8.5 lbs

what 1200cm wing are you changing to?

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby jumptheshark » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:09 am

Aftermarket

Stringy wing 2.0


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