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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Brizair10 » Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:21 am



Tortuga !

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Brizair10 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:18 pm

You can buy 790 plus 450 now..fits surf and wind fuse
https://store.moseshydrofoil.com/produc ... t-wing-790
https://store.moseshydrofoil.com/produc ... zer-450-mm
who wants to try it and post a review ?
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby ap888 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:22 pm

450 review :thumb:
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:44 pm

a news on 710 (2019) fuselage vs 749 (2018):
- stabilizer on 710 is ~20mm closer to the mast
- front wing on 710 is ~15mm closer to the mast (reduced need to move mast around when switching from 590. For me it's usually a 25-30mm move and folks on Moses boards can't move the mast at all)

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby handy » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:34 pm

grigorib wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:44 pm

- front wing on 710 is ~15mm closer to the mast (reduced need to move mast around when switching from 590. For me it's usually a 25-30mm move and folks on Moses boards can't move the mast at all)
I'm not sure about that as the leverage force of the shorter rear part of the fuselage. will try the 710 fuselage the next days.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Adventure Logs » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:53 pm

grigorib wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:44 pm
a news on 710 (2019) fuselage vs 749 (2018):
- stabilizer on 710 is ~20mm closer to the mast
- front wing on 710 is ~15mm closer to the mast (reduced need to move mast around when switching from 590. For me it's usually a 25-30mm move and folks on Moses boards can't move the mast at all)
This will fit the 633 correct? Is the 710 much smaller and importantl for me lighter? I was shocked how heavy the 749 fuse was which I first received my setup. I'm always looking to shave a couple pounds off my gear for travel.

=Jason-

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Rider47 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:12 am

Need advice. I am 220 pounds, I am an intermediate freerider (foil) riding strapless. I want a foil that has good low end but that can also do some decent speed. Most posts on this tread seem to point towards the Moses 633 wing, although its aspect ratio is very low. What about the 683S, how much low end would I loose, and finally should I really consider the new 720...

So confusing...

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:51 am

Rider47 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:12 am
Need advice. I am 220 pounds, I am an intermediate freerider (foil) riding strapless. I want a foil that has good low end but that can also do some decent speed. Most posts on this tread seem to point towards the Moses 633 wing, although its aspect ratio is very low. What about the 683S, how much low end would I loose, and finally should I really consider the new 720...

So confusing...
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:55 am

Adventure Logs wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:53 pm
grigorib wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:44 pm
a news on 710 (2019) fuselage vs 749 (2018):
- stabilizer on 710 is ~20mm closer to the mast
- front wing on 710 is ~15mm closer to the mast (reduced need to move mast around when switching from 590. For me it's usually a 25-30mm move and folks on Moses boards can't move the mast at all)
This will fit the 633 correct? Is the 710 much smaller and importantl for me lighter? I was shocked how heavy the 749 fuse was which I first received my setup. I'm always looking to shave a couple pounds off my gear for travel.

=Jason-
710 fuselage would fit any wing 749 would fit. So 633/683s/790/873 are good. I doubt there’s weight difference as 647-680 weight difference was negligible.
Funny though the original 633 wing was quite heavy compared to its later version.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby TomW » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:19 pm

interesting, i did not notice that. the 749 fuselage is not made anymore. So i guess they found out the 710 works the same or better and saved a little material cost/weight.

Be interesting to hear if it works different. I have not tried my 325 stab with the 633 wing yet- been testing my prototype boards


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