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Lamilu
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby Lamilu » Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:52 am

Could please anyone with experience on the new M92 mast share his views of performance in kitefoiling speeds…
In high speeds…does it increase lift substancially compared to M91?
Does it whistle?
Can you feel more drag?

dave1986
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby dave1986 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:28 pm

grigorib wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:30 pm
2022 updates here

viewtopic.php?p=1075851#p1075851
In this update you mention a 1350 wing. Are you sure this is correct?

grigorib
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Local Beach: OBX; Clinton Lake, IL; Lake Michigan; Hood River; La Ventana; Ocean Park, PR; SPI; Tawas, MI
Gear: Kites: Slingshot Rally 5/7/9/11m, Turbine 9/13m, SST 4/5m, UFO 3/5/7/9m, Flysurfer Speed4 10m standard, Flysurfer 2cool 6m, Peter Lynn Venom II ARC 16m

Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

For sale: Slingshot Turbine 9/13m, 20” Guardian bar, 1700 sq.cm wing/fuselage/stabilizer fitting Moses mast
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:50 pm

dave1986 wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:28 pm
grigorib wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:30 pm
2022 updates here

viewtopic.php?p=1075851#p1075851
In this update you mention a 1350 wing. Are you sure this is correct?
As far as know it is coming. Dock start, high AR, pumping wing

dave1986
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby dave1986 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:59 pm

grigorib wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:50 pm
dave1986 wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:28 pm
grigorib wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:30 pm
2022 updates here

viewtopic.php?p=1075851#p1075851
In this update you mention a 1350 wing. Are you sure this is correct?
As far as know it is coming. Dock start, high AR, pumping wing
Oh cool. Sound like that'll be a fun wing. Where did you hear about this?

grigorib
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Gear: Kites: Slingshot Rally 5/7/9/11m, Turbine 9/13m, SST 4/5m, UFO 3/5/7/9m, Flysurfer Speed4 10m standard, Flysurfer 2cool 6m, Peter Lynn Venom II ARC 16m

Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

For sale: Slingshot Turbine 9/13m, 20” Guardian bar, 1700 sq.cm wing/fuselage/stabilizer fitting Moses mast
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:31 pm

It’s always exciting to hear about new wings, and I’m trying to stay aware.

For the upcoming trip taking 101cm mast, 647 fuselage, original 425 and 310 sq.cm stabilizers, 730 sq.cm freeride and 1200 sq.cm lightwind wings. Still a kitefoiling trip, leaving winging gear behind. I wonder when it’s going to reverse.

Debating taking the 111 mast instead or keeping it pristine because people already talking offers and I have few extra 70/90cm masts for sale besides 111 potentially

dave1986
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby dave1986 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:20 pm

grigorib wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:31 pm
Debating taking the 111 mast instead or keeping it pristine because people already talking offers and I have few extra 70/90cm masts for sale besides 111 potentially
Do you think SABfoil will discontinue making the 111cm mast!?

grigorib
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Local Beach: OBX; Clinton Lake, IL; Lake Michigan; Hood River; La Ventana; Ocean Park, PR; SPI; Tawas, MI
Gear: Kites: Slingshot Rally 5/7/9/11m, Turbine 9/13m, SST 4/5m, UFO 3/5/7/9m, Flysurfer Speed4 10m standard, Flysurfer 2cool 6m, Peter Lynn Venom II ARC 16m

Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

For sale: Slingshot Turbine 9/13m, 20” Guardian bar, 1700 sq.cm wing/fuselage/stabilizer fitting Moses mast
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:11 pm

dave1986 wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:20 pm
grigorib wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:31 pm
Debating taking the 111 mast instead or keeping it pristine because people already talking offers and I have few extra 70/90cm masts for sale besides 111 potentially
Do you think SABfoil will discontinue making the 111cm mast!?
No. It’s just in US riders and dealers are really pissed off how lengthy and unreliable SAB supply chain became since couple years ago and folks wait months for their orders, cancel them and go to buy competitive brands.
It’s pretty much Moses lack of gear and lack of wanted gear (1700 sq.cm winging wing, original 425 stabilizer, larger wings for 647 fuselage, breaking up with Slingshot, etc) which moved many people away from the brand.
That’s what made me buy from competition too and I have little regrets.
Hopefully it will get better and competition will drive SAB to sober up and put their act together.
I mean 400 sq.cm wings are cool but people have been crying to get a 1700 sq.cm winging wing all last year long and would pay a lot of money for those. It’s cool that 945 “rides bigger” but it was impossible to get one.

So if anyone wants a 111 in pristine condition, or 800/647 plus new, in plastic original 425, or 590/330 plus 1200 sq.cm wing - I have a one of each available for sale

grigorib
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Local Beach: OBX; Clinton Lake, IL; Lake Michigan; Hood River; La Ventana; Ocean Park, PR; SPI; Tawas, MI
Gear: Kites: Slingshot Rally 5/7/9/11m, Turbine 9/13m, SST 4/5m, UFO 3/5/7/9m, Flysurfer Speed4 10m standard, Flysurfer 2cool 6m, Peter Lynn Venom II ARC 16m

Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

For sale: Slingshot Turbine 9/13m, 20” Guardian bar, 1700 sq.cm wing/fuselage/stabilizer fitting Moses mast
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:59 pm

800 in excellent condition with wing sleeve, like new 647 fuselage and original 425 still in plastic $1550 shipped in US
$1200 for the 111 mast in like new condition including Lift mast sleeve and shipping in US
$2600 for full set. It’s a happy set, well worth the money
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Floating around
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby Floating around » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:01 pm

Hi,
Would you sell the 425 separately?
Thanks.

Lamilu
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby Lamilu » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:34 am

Has anybody enlaeged holes in 633 or 679 wing to use 8mm screws on the HS fuselage?
Any pictures or videos?


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