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grigorib
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Re: Moses SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Sat May 21, 2022 5:09 pm

Does anyone feel a slight burn that for <1200 cm² kitefoil wings you need to use a heavy brick of surf fuselage?
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Foil
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Re: Moses SABfoil

Postby Foil » Sun May 22, 2022 8:25 am

grigorib wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 5:09 pm
Does anyone feel a slight burn that for <1200 cm² kitefoil wings you need to use a heavy brick of surf fuselage?
I have the 703 and the 753 kraken fuses, 703 feels fine to handle, and once in the water no difference to report
the 753 is heavier, more weight that i can feel when pulling from the car and screwing it on the mast, no difference once in the water but i can definitely feel the difference when boosting, to the point of thinking i need to tighten my footstraps a little, but the longer fuse pays back by being nicer to land on, smoother entry back in with reduced tendency to dive, very nice in fact, but yes it is maybe a bit over engineered for kite foil fuse,
I did carry a buddies foil board back up the beach the other day with all the lighter series one carbon bits on it, but due to the weight of the board it was horrible to carry, and made me think how bad it would feel if kitted out with the full kraken kit,
my own board is only a 110cm 2022 groove skate which weighs very little with wet straps.
I can still pick the full set up (board-103k mast-633 wing set-753 fuse-wet footstraps) with with finger and thumb under the balance point on the mast to raise it onto my shoulder with ease, all whilst holding the kite and bar in my left hand, or flying the kite with my left hand.
small price to pay for the superior ride from not having a flexible mast to fuse connection

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Re: Moses SABfoil

Postby a99 » Tue May 31, 2022 8:51 am

Any new reviews on 699?

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Re: Moses SABfoil

Postby Lamilu » Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:55 am

I am travelling for kitehydrofoil purposes…
But intend to take a W945 as a light wind kite, medium wind wingboard wing.
Has anybody used a W945 with a kite?
I am very heavy guy…

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Re: Moses SABfoil

Postby cglazier » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:11 am

I often use my W950 with my kite in lighter wind. (It is similar to the W945.) I bought the W950 for winging but find it glides very well and it makes my kiting jibes and tacks easier. I use it with the S483 stabilizer and F700 fuselage because that is what I have. Overall it turns slightly slower and may not have the best top speed but it is a pleasure to ride in 10 knot winds ..or even less. I now use my W800 wing only when the wind is above about 12 knots. My W950 works in stronger wind but I find it more fun on a smaller front wing.

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Re: Moses SABfoil

Postby flaps1111 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:16 pm

I'm also interested in a wing for waves... I have w790 wing, it is a very good wing but it stops when breaching I think it is due to theirs winglets.

I would use it with the Peak5 4mts.

W950 or w945? What about w799 or even w999?

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Re: Moses SABfoil

Postby plasma180 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:19 pm

799 is very nice for waves, 999 is too big
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Re: Moses SABfoil

Postby flaps1111 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:13 pm

plasma180 wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:19 pm
799 is very nice for waves, 999 is too big
799 is 1100cm but I suppose that it glides much better than w633 but better than w790??

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Re: Moses SABfoil

Postby plasma180 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:20 pm

yes 799 glides better than 790
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Re: Moses SABfoil

Postby dave1986 » Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:36 am

Can anyone tell me when the W1350 wing will be released?
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