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grigorib
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Mon May 31, 2021 8:56 pm

My favorite event site setup whole last week
730/425, 101cm
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby a99 » Mon May 31, 2021 10:18 pm

grigorib wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 8:56 pm
My favorite event site setup whole last week
730/425, 101cm
Yea, 425 is best if best Moses stab for sure!

grigorib
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Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:31 am

a99 wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 10:18 pm
grigorib wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 8:56 pm
My favorite event site setup whole last week
730/425, 101cm
Yea, 425 is best if best Moses stab for sure! Hi
Look, Polaroid fans brought back the magic again, so maybe we can influence other manufacturers... :)
I rode 230 freerace RDB stabilizer and it felt very close to 425. The 420 and 421 are not too far from 425 and I’d recommend folks riding smaller than 1000 sq.cm to try race stabilizers

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby darippah » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:52 am

Long shot here … Can anyone here advise on mast positioning with the w800 in comparison with the 637?

I moved the mast up 1/2 inch which almost the max I can move forwards and front foot pressure is still way less than 637

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Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:14 am

darippah wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:52 am
Long shot here … Can anyone here advise on mast positioning with the w800 in comparison with the 637?

I moved the mast up 1/2 inch which almost the max I can move forwards and front foot pressure is still way less than 637
For 637 and 800 wings I keep the mast/feet in same position. Back foot big toe behind rear mast plate bolts

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby darippah » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:17 am

grigorib wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:14 am
darippah wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:52 am
Long shot here … Can anyone here advise on mast positioning with the w800 in comparison with the 637?

I moved the mast up 1/2 inch which almost the max I can move forwards and front foot pressure is still way less than 637
For 637 and 800 wings I keep the mast/feet in same position. Back foot big toe behind rear mast plate bolts
Do you feel much less from foot pressure with the 800 with the same mast position as the 637?

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Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:31 am

darippah wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:17 am

Do you feel much less from foot pressure with the 800 with the same mast position as the 637?
Not at all

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Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:57 pm

tomtom wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:25 pm
only kitesurf version 633 - surf version has heavier wing
Those were only first batches of 633 and 683s which were heavier made back in winter 2017-2018. All later 633 wings were the made the same lift weight.
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grigorib
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Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:59 pm

Can someone confirm/clarify on area of 950 wing? Originally listed as one number then area was reported different between 1500-1600 sq.cm and finally Moses updated web page saying it is 1350 sq.cm, which is size I thought the 945 will come in.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby dave1986 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:27 am

Has anyone here used the new SAB Foil W1250 wing yet?

I'm around 86kg and learning wing foiling... I'm wondering whether it's much of a benefit for low winds over the W1100 wing?
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