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Lamilu
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Kiting since: 1998
Weight: 110kg
Local Beach: Cabo Frio, Cumbuco
Style: Wave/foil
Gear: Duotone Neo 8, Rebel 7 and 9, Chrono 11
Armstrong M800 and board
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby Lamilu » Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:09 pm

grigorib wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:34 pm
Leaked call on YouTube explains the additional 800 grams of weight in Kraken system went exclusively into anodization layer. Riders complain way too much and company decided to put an end once for all to corrosion. 7mm of anodized layer can stop a bullet, not to talk about some silly salt
Not sure corrosion comes from exposure to salt water or electrolisis in salt water due to micro cavitations, or both, every time you hear the singing…its cavitation.
If anodization helped here, you would see anodyzed propellers and shafts, never seen one.
800grams in a 7mm layer? Never heard of 1.4 cm layer considering bouth sides…maybe 0.7mm…even so…800grams in 0.7mm layer would cover a great area…

grigorib
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Kiting since: 2009
Local Beach: OBX; Clinton Lake, IL; Lake Michigan; Hood River; La Ventana; Ocean Park, PR; SPI; Tawas, MI
Gear: Kites: Slingshot Rally 5/7/9/11m, Turbine 9/13m, SST 4/5m, UFO 3/5/7/9m, Flysurfer Speed4 10m standard, Flysurfer 2cool 6m, Peter Lynn Venom II ARC 16m

Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

For sale: Slingshot Turbine 9/13m, 20” Guardian bar, 1700 sq.cm wing/fuselage/stabilizer fitting Moses mast
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:36 pm

Lamilu wrote:
Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:09 pm
grigorib wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:34 pm
Leaked call on YouTube explains the additional 800 grams of weight in Kraken system went exclusively into anodization layer. Riders complain way too much and company decided to put an end once for all to corrosion. 7mm of anodized layer can stop a bullet, not to talk about some silly salt
Not sure corrosion comes from exposure to salt water or electrolisis in salt water due to micro cavitations, or both, every time you hear the singing…its cavitation.
If anodization helped here, you would see anodyzed propellers and shafts, never seen one.
800grams in a 7mm layer? Never heard of 1.4 cm layer considering bouth sides…maybe 0.7mm…even so…800grams in 0.7mm layer would cover a great area…
Check the date of the post.

dave1986
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby dave1986 » Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:50 pm

grigorib wrote:
Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:36 pm
Check the date of the post.
Can you give the link to the YouTube video that you refer to with the leaked conversation about the 800g anodising?

grigorib
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Local Beach: OBX; Clinton Lake, IL; Lake Michigan; Hood River; La Ventana; Ocean Park, PR; SPI; Tawas, MI
Gear: Kites: Slingshot Rally 5/7/9/11m, Turbine 9/13m, SST 4/5m, UFO 3/5/7/9m, Flysurfer Speed4 10m standard, Flysurfer 2cool 6m, Peter Lynn Venom II ARC 16m

Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

For sale: Slingshot Turbine 9/13m, 20” Guardian bar, 1700 sq.cm wing/fuselage/stabilizer fitting Moses mast
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:57 pm

dave1986 wrote:
Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:50 pm
grigorib wrote:
Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:36 pm
Check the date of the post.
Can you give the link to the YouTube video that you refer to with the leaked conversation about the 800g anodising?
Here’s inspiration for the post
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andylc
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby andylc » Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:09 pm

So...additional to wing size - do you think I could get away with starting off on a 110cm board at my relatively light weight (65kg)? I don't expect to become a dedicated foiler so if I do take the plunge would prefer to get a setup I'm not going to want to upgrade too quickly. Leaning towards F-one Pocket plus IC850 V3.

Turbaani
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby Turbaani » Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:33 pm

Yes you can get away with it, longer board just makes it easier when training feet changes and jibes etc.

Lamilu
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Weight: 110kg
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Armstrong M800 and board
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby Lamilu » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:43 pm

Got a W799 coming next week.
Use a S399 paired with my W695….M92.
A friend is selling a almost new S330 Youth.
Question:
Has anybody paired a W799 with S330?
Does it work OK for light wind slalom kiting?
Or instead of having 2 sets just share the S399…
Thanks

a99
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby a99 » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:03 pm

it is unbelievable, the season already started and Moses still cannot sell new 699 wing. Maybe some already have it, how it is compared with 800? 40 cm2 just difference, can be some essential difference between them in general?

a99
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby a99 » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:26 pm

Maybe some one knows if w800 wing fits to 710 surf fuselage?

grigorib
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Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:12 pm
Kiting since: 2009
Local Beach: OBX; Clinton Lake, IL; Lake Michigan; Hood River; La Ventana; Ocean Park, PR; SPI; Tawas, MI
Gear: Kites: Slingshot Rally 5/7/9/11m, Turbine 9/13m, SST 4/5m, UFO 3/5/7/9m, Flysurfer Speed4 10m standard, Flysurfer 2cool 6m, Peter Lynn Venom II ARC 16m

Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

For sale: Slingshot Turbine 9/13m, 20” Guardian bar, 1700 sq.cm wing/fuselage/stabilizer fitting Moses mast
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021-2022 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:38 pm

a99 wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:26 pm
Maybe some one knows if w800 wing fits to 710 surf fuselage?
800 wing is meant for kite fuselages. It doesn’t fit 749/710/700
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