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grigorib
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Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses 80/82/91/105cm masts with 590/330 695/425 683s/450 679/483 wingsets, Tim's 36" woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 3'6" 2019-2020, MBS Comp 95x

For sale: Slingshot SST 6m 2018 $480, Slingshot Turbine 5m 2017 like new $450, BROkite carbon board 140x44cm like new complete $650, Slingshot Rally 6m 2017 like new $530

Moses 590/647/330 $740, Moses 633/749/483 $790, Moses 683s/749/483 $890, 75cm alu mast $200, 80cm alu mast $260
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:06 pm

Does mast plate have any place in racing world or Tuttle is prevailing? Is 111 mast with a plate set to become a history?

Brizair10
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Brizair10 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:20 pm

Havok:
Confusion or lack of order, especially causing damage or trouble....
why name a foil that way ?

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby juanpasala » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:34 pm

Brizair10 wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:20 pm
Havok:
Confusion or lack of order, especially causing damage or trouble....
why name a foil that way ?
Sounds Cool

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Foil » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:20 pm

It's around the same price of the new Huawei Mate X folding phone.
that makes the Havoc cheap.
or the folding phone very expensive.
Mind you If I was to mention I was thinking of spending that much on a foil set without board then it would cause havoc in our house.
well thought out name in that case.

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Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses 80/82/91/105cm masts with 590/330 695/425 683s/450 679/483 wingsets, Tim's 36" woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 3'6" 2019-2020, MBS Comp 95x

For sale: Slingshot SST 6m 2018 $480, Slingshot Turbine 5m 2017 like new $450, BROkite carbon board 140x44cm like new complete $650, Slingshot Rally 6m 2017 like new $530

Moses 590/647/330 $740, Moses 633/749/483 $790, Moses 683s/749/483 $890, 75cm alu mast $200, 80cm alu mast $260
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:06 pm

Carbon and silicon - both are source of endless pleasure :)

As to justify price, for a western world at least, I have a system: if the rate is under $1 per minute of use - consider it cheap and paid off.
Let’s say you buy a $30 drone and it flies away. If you got over half an hour of flying time out of it - you shouldn’t feel bad. You got a $300 wing and ruined it at a reef? If you got 5 hours of riding out of the wing - it paid itself off already. 5 minutes ride on a rollecoaster for $10. Expensive a bit but small sum to be bothered. Etc.
33 hours on $2000 setup is 15-20 good sessions. Pretty much covered in 14 days kite trip.
Consider it cheap.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby TomW » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:51 pm

grigorib wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:06 pm
Carbon and silicon - both are source of endless pleasure :)

As to justify price, for a western world at least, I have a system: if the rate is under $1 per minute of use - consider it cheap and paid off.
Let’s say you buy a $30 drone and it flies away. If you got over half an hour of flying time out of it - you shouldn’t feel bad. You got a $300 wing and ruined it at a reef? If you got 5 hours of riding out of the wing - it paid itself off already. 5 minutes ride on a rollecoaster for $10. Expensive a bit but small sum to be bothered. Etc.
33 hours on $2000 setup is 15-20 good sessions. Pretty much covered in 14 days kite trip.
Consider it cheap.
My calculation is about 10$ per hour of use and I figure it's a good deal.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby WH Lithuania » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:28 am

grigorib wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:06 pm
Does mast plate have any place in racing world or Tuttle is prevailing? Is 111 mast with a plate set to become a history?
The trend is tuttle for racing.

I freeride with 111cm mast and 633 wing. I'm not planning to switch to tuttle board so that means I'm going to use 111cm mast + 10cm extension 8)

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby ap888 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:08 am

The 790 looks so nice please let us know who ever try’s it first want to hear all about it :D
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grigorib
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Local Beach: OBX; Clinton Lake, IL; Lake Michigan; La Ventana, SPI; Tawas, MI
Gear: Kites: Slingshot Rally 5/7/9/11m, SST 5m, Turbine 9m, Flysurfer Speed4 10m standard, Peter Lynn Venom II ARC 16m

Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses 80/82/91/105cm masts with 590/330 695/425 683s/450 679/483 wingsets, Tim's 36" woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 3'6" 2019-2020, MBS Comp 95x

For sale: Slingshot SST 6m 2018 $480, Slingshot Turbine 5m 2017 like new $450, BROkite carbon board 140x44cm like new complete $650, Slingshot Rally 6m 2017 like new $530

Moses 590/647/330 $740, Moses 633/749/483 $790, Moses 683s/749/483 $890, 75cm alu mast $200, 80cm alu mast $260
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:42 pm

Well done! Reminds me of pictures visualizing size of the Moon to Earth to Jupiter to Sun to bigger star to a bigger star.... :)

I'm sure bunch of people are already bugging their dealers with "when is it coming to my door?"

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby twig » Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:42 pm

It would be great to get someone to do a review of the new 790 and 645 wings.

I have tried the slingshot 84cm and that looks close to 790. Wonderd if the 790 is fast and carves good? Thats what the ss 84 does, kind of. And i like it alot.

Need something different from my 590/558.

Also intrested to hear about the speed of the 645. Hope its up there with the very best.


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