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DukeSilver
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby DukeSilver » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:51 pm

derek440 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:48 am
yeah seeing as how the moses mast has rake and the slighshot mast does not you really want the adapter to be moving the wings aft (like the stringy one) rather than moving the wings forward like the foilmount one. Either way if you get a stringy fuse the problem is solved by moving the mast further forward/moving the wings further back (looks like its also fixed on alu-moses which has mast near front wing). I test rode mine today and with the stringy fuse my feet were way back where the proper footstrap holes are on my board are rather than way forward near the nose (almost off the deck pad) with the 749 fuse. Problem solved. And btw the foil is freakin amazing, I clocked over 28km on it today and top speed around 20kn in pretty crappy wind, am very happy with the stringy fuse and 683s, its a winning combo. So smooth and fast and stable, its high quality kit, makes all the other gear I have tried so far seem like wobbly plastic crap
Nice one Derek. Glad you had a good kite today and loved the new gear. I went out today at Melville but ended up swimming in with a drowned Hyperlink.
Cheers - Ken H
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby PurdyKiter » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:28 pm

derek440 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:48 am
yeah seeing as how the moses mast has rake and the slighshot mast does not you really want the adapter to be moving the wings aft (like the stringy one) rather than moving the wings forward like the foilmount one. Either way if you get a stringy fuse the problem is solved by moving the mast further forward/moving the wings further back (looks like its also fixed on alu-moses which has mast near front wing). I test rode mine today and with the stringy fuse my feet were way back where the proper footstrap holes are on my board are rather than way forward near the nose (almost off the deck pad) with the 749 fuse. Problem solved. And btw the foil is freakin amazing, I clocked over 28km on it today and top speed around 20kn in pretty crappy wind, am very happy with the stringy fuse and 683s, its a winning combo. So smooth and fast and stable, its high quality kit, makes all the other gear I have tried so far seem like wobbly plastic crap
Nice, I too have upgraded my Moses 633/483/91 with the Stringy fuselage mod and I find it to be a nicer balanced ride. This is on my strapless Kanaha Shapes board.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Peter_Frank » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:11 pm

DukeSilver wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:51 pm

Nice one Derek. Glad you had a good kite today and loved the new gear. I went out today at Melville but ended up swimming in with a drowned Hyperlink.
Cheers - Ken H

This happens now and then Ken, nothing to do about that, eventhough one '"swear" a lot just when it happens :roll: :x

But gives you SO many good days also, so worth it :rollgrin:

8) Peter
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:49 pm

Rode 683s in marginal 10 knots wind under 10m Slingshot on 30m lines at South Haven past Saturday. Clocked 21MPH. Had great time but unlike my friend I gave up on 590 set for those conditions.
He rode 590 under 10m SST on 27m lines.
Both on Dwarfcraft Micro in regards to board size.

Deeply thankful to Moses and Slingshot for delivering this awesomeness
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:05 pm

PurdyKiter wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:28 pm
derek440 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:48 am
yeah seeing as how the moses mast has rake and the slighshot mast does not you really want the adapter to be moving the wings aft (like the stringy one) rather than moving the wings forward like the foilmount one. Either way if you get a stringy fuse the problem is solved by moving the mast further forward/moving the wings further back (looks like its also fixed on alu-moses which has mast near front wing). I test rode mine today and with the stringy fuse my feet were way back where the proper footstrap holes are on my board are rather than way forward near the nose (almost off the deck pad) with the 749 fuse. Problem solved. And btw the foil is freakin amazing, I clocked over 28km on it today and top speed around 20kn in pretty crappy wind, am very happy with the stringy fuse and 683s, its a winning combo. So smooth and fast and stable, its high quality kit, makes all the other gear I have tried so far seem like wobbly plastic crap
Nice, I too have upgraded my Moses 633/483/91 with the Stringy fuselage mod and I find it to be a nicer balanced ride. This is on my strapless Kanaha Shapes board.
Posting one Stingy's surf fuselage for sale in "like new" condition

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby tkaraszewski » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:32 pm

grigorib wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:05 pm
PurdyKiter wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:28 pm
derek440 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:48 am
yeah seeing as how the moses mast has rake and the slighshot mast does not you really want the adapter to be moving the wings aft (like the stringy one) rather than moving the wings forward like the foilmount one. Either way if you get a stringy fuse the problem is solved by moving the mast further forward/moving the wings further back (looks like its also fixed on alu-moses which has mast near front wing). I test rode mine today and with the stringy fuse my feet were way back where the proper footstrap holes are on my board are rather than way forward near the nose (almost off the deck pad) with the 749 fuse. Problem solved. And btw the foil is freakin amazing, I clocked over 28km on it today and top speed around 20kn in pretty crappy wind, am very happy with the stringy fuse and 683s, its a winning combo. So smooth and fast and stable, its high quality kit, makes all the other gear I have tried so far seem like wobbly plastic crap
Nice, I too have upgraded my Moses 633/483/91 with the Stringy fuselage mod and I find it to be a nicer balanced ride. This is on my strapless Kanaha Shapes board.
Posting one Stingy's surf fuselage for sale in "like new" condition
Where are you posting it? Price?

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:41 pm

tkaraszewski wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:32 pm
grigorib wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:05 pm
PurdyKiter wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:28 pm


Nice, I too have upgraded my Moses 633/483/91 with the Stringy fuselage mod and I find it to be a nicer balanced ride. This is on my strapless Kanaha Shapes board.
Posting one Stingy's surf fuselage for sale in "like new" condition
Where are you posting it? Price?
$290 will get it shipped to anywhere in continental US.
to you tomorrow.

For guys on KS and Moses boards the fuselage allows to avoid drilling new holes in mast pedestal or board.
I designed my board layout to not have this issue. Between custom fuselage and custom board I opted for custom board.
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby tkaraszewski » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:48 am

grigorib wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:41 pm
tkaraszewski wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:32 pm
grigorib wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:05 pm


Posting one Stingy's surf fuselage for sale in "like new" condition
Where are you posting it? Price?
$290 will get it shipped to anywhere in continental US.
to you tomorrow.

For guys on KS and Moses boards the fuselage allows to avoid drilling new holes in mast pedestal or board.
I designed my board layout to not have this issue. Between custom fuselage and custom board I opted for custom board.
I might be interested. I did send Jim a message to see what he'd charge for a brand new one, though. So I'm going to see what he says. I tried out one of these yesterday though (on a 33" KS board) and I think I'd like the farther back placement of it.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:43 pm

How is not a misdemeanor to ride KS at the Hood River? :)

Well, maybe better question is - how slow manufacturers are to allow a simple shaped board with four M8 holes and a mat to market for $850. KS, just as BRM thrived upon slowness and inability of big boys to foresee/manufacture/sell light kites and pocketboards. And big boys keep announcing/shipping some oversized monsterboards - overly thick, weirdly wide, almost flat, overly long - year after year. Who to blame, right....

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby tkaraszewski » Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:07 pm

grigorib wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:43 pm
How is not a misdemeanor to ride KS at the Hood River? :)

Well, maybe better question is - how slow manufacturers are to allow a simple shaped board with four M8 holes and a mat to market for $850. KS, just as BRM thrived upon slowness and inability of big boys to foresee/manufacture/sell light kites and pocketboards. And big boys keep announcing/shipping some oversized monsterboards - overly thick, weirdly wide, almost flat, overly long - year after year. Who to blame, right....
Last summer Fred Hope was riding around on the Dwarfcraft Micro and everyone wanted one and Slingshot didn't have any to sell and people started buying KS boards and other boutique pocket boards. Similar with the Onda. Lots of locals would have happily bought the 633 with "Slingshot" branding on it, but they were all out of stock so people started buying Moses ones. Now there's a Moses dealer local, too. There are also a lot of Clouds being flown in Hood River. The freeride foil scene is big here and people like what Greg Drexler is doing. Meanwhile Slingshot hasn't introduced anything new for over a year, and North/Duotone missed the boat on hydrofoils. These local brands (or at least with local designers) seem to be more interested in "wind wings" and tiny windfoils, despite the beach being covered with freeride kitefoils and strapless surfboards, and those cuistomers will go somewhere else if the gear is better.
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