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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:51 pm

dave1986 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:26 pm
grigorib wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:18 pm
749/710 fuselages have different length but ride pretty much the same.
Any idea why Moses decided to shorten the surf fuselage by 39mm? Must have been some logic behind the change?
There was quite some feedback on 749 mast<->wing position resulting in more of front foot pressure (or need to move the mast on the board) and I would guess it might have had some effect on the decision, however not only mast got closer to the wing, but also stabilizer got closer to the mast so there's no front foot stance/pressure effect from that.

710 is more compact and is 50 grams lighter for what its worth. Rides the same so why bother with bulkier I guess

I'm glad that it fits into Slingshot foil pouch with 710 :)

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby a99 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:13 pm

Maybe still Moses will do and release bigger foil mast than 111cm for 2020 year ??
It's much much funner to fly with longest as possible mast than short.

I dreaming about much much longer mast than is available today from Moses or Slingshot, and it's not possible to purchase it, because it's simple not made for purchase - i dreaming about foil mast of 122 cm or 144 cm lenght.

My idea is to melt to slinghot masts for example 41cm+91cm to one mast and put it to moses fuselage (As i have all Onda).

Can someone tell me it''s possible in real life to melt two alumiunn Slingshot masts to one, and it will be ridable and can stand for 74kg weight in normal speed (i'm not speaking about extreme race speeds) ?

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:27 pm

a99 wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:13 pm
Maybe still Moses will do and release bigger foil mast than 111cm for 2020 year ??
It's much much funner to fly with longest as possible mast than short.

I dreaming about much much longer mast than is available today from Moses or Slingshot, and it's not possible to purchase it, because it's simple not made for purchase - i dreaming about foil mast of 122 cm or 144 cm lenght.

My idea is to melt to slinghot masts for example 41cm+91cm to one mast and put it to moses fuselage (As i have all Onda).

Can someone tell me it''s possible in real life to melt two alumiunn Slingshot masts to one, and it will be ridable and can stand for 74kg weight in normal speed (i'm not speaking about extreme race speeds) ?
Houston Kiteboarding guys did it and they were excited to talk about it too.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby wheat » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:19 pm

Grigorib is right. Houston kiteboarding had fun with welding SS masts together.

8ft version


5ft version

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Labskaus » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:45 pm

Now alu foils availble... :D
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby dave1986 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:58 am

Labskaus wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:45 pm
Now alu foils availble... :D
I can see a 75cm aluminium mast, but no adapter plates?
https://store.moseshydrofoil.com/products/mast-alu-75

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Adventure Logs » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:41 am

Labskaus wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:45 pm
Now alu foils availble... :D
Wow cheap at 99 euros. I wonder what the weight will be.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby gmb13 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:58 am

dave1986 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:58 am
Labskaus wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:45 pm
Now alu foils availble... :D
I can see a 75cm aluminium mast, but no adapter plates?
https://store.moseshydrofoil.com/products/mast-alu-75
The Plate is here https://store.moseshydrofoil.com/produc ... r-kite-alu

I will be receiving my Alu Foil in about 2 weeks and then I will do a video on it.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby dave1986 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:57 am

Any idea if the Moses aluminium masts have the same shape as the Slingshot masts? It would be nice to use the slingshot adapter plate which I already have. And I guess an adapter piece is also needed to fit the mast into the fuselage?

Also it looks like the Moses aluminium masts are slightly hollowed out presumably to reduce weight. :thumb:
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:53 pm

gmb13 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:58 am
dave1986 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:58 am
Labskaus wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:45 pm
Now alu foils availble... :D
I can see a 75cm aluminium mast, but no adapter plates?
https://store.moseshydrofoil.com/products/mast-alu-75
The Plate is here https://store.moseshydrofoil.com/produc ... r-kite-alu

I will be receiving my Alu Foil in about 2 weeks and then I will do a video on it.

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What about adapter to the fuselage? Or dedicated surf fuselage is required?


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