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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby TomW » Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:09 pm

Grig,

I can fly around with 10-20 strands of seagrass on the 633. It's not fun though.
Weed on mast is almost as much problem. It's a serious session killer.
Weed is so bad, I gave up using 550 and 590 wing as they don't fly at all with just a few strands on wing. I'd really like to go back to a faster wing some sessions, but I've tried and it is too big risk there is Weeds. Many of us are now so advanced, this is our biggest issue.

The seagrass we have is concentrated on certain region/areas of water. If I drive an hour north there is none. But in the öre Sound and southcoast all the way to East coast it's a problem.
I've heard that they forbid fishermen using trawling method and this has lead to increase in seagrass, which in turn is good for the fish. So it seems to be a problem not going away.

Hence: I need anti weed foil!

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby airsurfer » Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:55 pm

1100 wing looks good for wingfoiling. would also love to see a high aspect 2500cm2 wing like gofoil Armstrong naish gong...

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby stevez » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:47 am

Moses has some great products, but they don't have, and never have had clean product lines. All their wing designs seem to be quite eclectic ad-hoc creations, each one potentially hit-and-miss.

The 633 seems like a hit, a very popular and well loved wing, and no doubt good, as I'm sure are most of the others, but it's hard to see how one could choose a quiver of progressive wings with predictable performance that maintain a thread of consistency in feel from their lineup.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby Wazza Foil » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:52 am

I have 683, 790 and 873 which work nicely for me and cover kite and SUP foiling.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby Smartarse88 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:17 pm

@dave1986 @grigorib
Had a moment to measure most of the parts that I have:

647 fuselage 648g
633 wing, 745g, 25mm max section
590 wing, 520g, 14.5mm max section, 132mm max chord (will measure section again when i have the correct tools)
330 stab, 106g, 8.6mm max section, 79mm max chord
483 stab, 220g, 11.25 max section, 87mm max chord

:)

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby dave1986 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:06 am

Moses Wings List updated as requested by a few people!
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby cor » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:56 pm

Which wing/combo is replacing the havoc in 2020? In my opinion the havoc was the best for jumping/big air; Smaller than the 558 and thinner profile. More control at high speed.

Is it the 670? But this one is not available with plate mast now it seems while the havoc could be combined with a plate mast in 2019. I am confused... there seems to be a gap in the new lineup :(

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby SparD » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:12 pm

cor wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:56 pm
Which wing/combo is replacing the havoc in 2020? In my opinion the havoc was the best for jumping/big air; Smaller than the 558 and thinner profile. More control at high speed.

Is it the 670? But this one is not available with plate mast now it seems while the havoc could be combined with a plate mast in 2019. I am confused... there seems to be a gap in the new lineup :(
670 will need a new fuselage with the front wing mounted on top.
This new fuselage will be compatible with the plate masts.
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:32 pm

Race 680 fuselage led the change for all future kite sets back in 2016 - attaching “free race” 560 and “competition” 580 wings to it.

We’ll see if 604 fuselage will replace both 647 and 710 in 2020
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby cor » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:46 pm

grigorib wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:32 pm
Race 680 fuselage led the change for all future kite sets back in 2016 - attaching “free race” 560 and “competition” 580 wings to it.

We’ll see if 670 fuselage will replace both 647 and 710 in 2020
I think the 604 fuselage only fits the 670 wing but no other wing. So, no. As I understand it, the 604 won't replace any other fuselage.


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