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grigorib
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:40 pm

a99 wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:34 am
And why not any word about 645, which has the same speed as 637, but more stable and with better lowed.
And strange, in moses webshop you cannot by their best wings as 683w, 645, 425. But older wings you can buy. Some say 683w has replacement of new model but i didnt hear good words about this new replacement.
I guess I was late on 645 wagon and of 671, which I assume is a copy of 670, except with countersink on another side of the mount holes, is not out yet. 637 was an affordable buy, since I refuse getting yet another fuselage (for 670 race wing).

It’s funny how Moses sharply discontinues last year race sets but 558 and 550 have some nostalgic value to be still offered.

What is a replacement wing for 683w? I thought that was a dead-end incompatible windsurf wing.

As of 683s the 679 replacement is pretty awesome - same geometry, except 50 grams lighter

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby live2play » Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:21 pm

Marc_87 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:06 pm
The day before yesterday I did receive my Moses race Hydrofoil set K106-670 with T75LTD. I does looks really good and I am looking forward to race with it in the Kitefoil cup Holland.
What is the distance from the back tuttle mount to the rear of the board?

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby Marc_87 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:21 am

live2play wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:21 pm
Marc_87 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:06 pm
The day before yesterday I did receive my Moses race Hydrofoil set K106-670 with T75LTD. I does looks really good and I am looking forward to race with it in the Kitefoil cup Holland.
What is the distance from the back tuttle mount to the rear of the board?
I will measure that later today or this weekend.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby joekitetime » Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:20 pm

grigorib wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:44 pm
637 over 695. 38% size gap. Seems a nice pair for both speed and lightwind
After reading your recent reviews I can't wait to try my 637/420 as well as the 695/420 perhaps!

You've got a library of Moses info here!

Thanks!

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:40 pm

My buddy, an excellent rider who’s usually on 590/330 had a long good day on 695.

Here’s his feedback:

Maximum fun session! I left everything the same and just let the wing do its magic. Stance was the same. On 9m typical gusty conditions probably 12-25 but well powered most of the time. When I pushed it the top speed was probably 80% of 590 before it got hard to manage. Still plenty carvey, foot switches and tacks were rock solid. I was loving pointing downwind, dumping the kite power and just riding the lake swell all the way, endless glide. I really had to put forth an effort to get it to stall, and it was a slow elevator ride down, not a sudden plummet, easy to recover. It got me through some lulls where I know I would’ve been in the water with 590. Exactly what I was looking for. Pumped to try it with 420, I may be unstoppable then. I’m going to have foil face all night now...
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby Marc_87 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:08 am

Marc_87 wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:21 am
live2play wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:21 pm
Marc_87 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:06 pm
The day before yesterday I did receive my Moses race Hydrofoil set K106-670 with T75LTD. I does looks really good and I am looking forward to race with it in the Kitefoil cup Holland.
What is the distance from the back tuttle mount to the rear of the board?
I will measure that later today or this weekend.
The distance is 152mm, see the picture.
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby gmb13 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:01 pm


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Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses 80/82/91/105/111cm masts with 637+695/425 590/330 679/450 wingsets, Tim's 36" woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 3'6" 2019-2020, MBS Comp 95x

For sale: Slingshot SST 6m 2018 $480, Slingshot Turbine 5m 2017 like new $450, BROkite carbon board 140x44cm like new complete $650, Slingshot Rally 6m 2017 like new $530

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:09 pm

After riding 420 race stabilizer I got a feeling that it’s so awesome that there’s no need to use 325 or 330. It’s just a single best stabilizer that needs to be manufactured for kite setups at least.
I plan to try larger 425 race stabilizer with 695 and 683s and see if it would work as well or better than 483

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby Frankieboy » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:09 pm

grigorib wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:09 pm
After riding 420 race stabilizer I got a feeling that it’s so awesome that there’s no need to use 325 or 330. It’s just a single best stabilizer that needs to be manufactured for kite setups at least.
I plan to try larger 425 race stabilizer with 695 and 683s and see if it would work as well or better than 483
and 633 please :D

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby max » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:08 pm

grigorib wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:09 pm
After riding 420 race stabilizer I got a feeling that it’s so awesome that there’s no need to use 325 or 330. It’s just a single best stabilizer that needs to be manufactured for kite setups at least.
I plan to try larger 425 race stabilizer with 695 and 683s and see if it would work as well or better than 483

agree . . . 679 (683S) + 420 is sweet.
633+420 is also sweet though had to move the mast about 2" forward for same setting which I was not expecting.

Interested to hear how the 425 runs as it looks to be a bigger stab than 420.


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