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The back drag and stupid unwind angles

Postby plummet » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:27 am

I was out today on the 12m Chrono V1. 9-12 knots pretty powdered up.

I was laying down some pretty sweet canted angles cranking upwind. So I decided to find out if I could do a back drag on the water without falling off.
Turns out I can. It's pretty darn cool too. Foil on an almost Horizontal angle, Almost half the wing our of the water hooning along back touching down occasionally.

Then something surreal happened. As I was heeled right over attempting the back drag. I start hooning upwind at an even more stupid angle. An angle that was ridiculous to believe.
Wind was cross on to the beach and i was tacking back towards the beach heeling upwind and was actually traveling away from the beach out to sea. I'm used to hydrofoil angles. But this was another level of stupid.


Maybe it was another level of efficiency because half of the wing was occasionally out of the water? I don't know why but dang is was cool indeed.

Thoughts? postulations?


Oh yeah, if you havent layed down a back drag yet. There is a challenge for you!

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Re: The back drag and stupid unwind angles

Postby Regis-de-giens » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:20 am

What do you mean by back drag ?
If you were at an angle beyond "common tight" upwind angle i see two possible explanations :
- your inertia : with enough inertia you can keep tension your lines by crancking upwind harder and harder (your kite acting more in paraglider mode)
- local/punctual change of wind direction.

Just my thought , but maybe I misunderstood your configuration of backdrag.

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Re: The back drag and stupid unwind angles

Postby Peter_Frank » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:57 am

"Back drag" Regis, he is talking about being really powered and leaning back on a high upwind leg, so much that his back drags in the water :thumb:

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Re: The back drag and stupid unwind angles

Postby xulpix » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:01 pm

That? 8)

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Re: The back drag and stupid unwind angles

Postby plummet » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:53 pm

xulpix wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:01 pm
That? 8)

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Yep, that. Except arch your back and see if you can get it touching down!

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Re: The back drag and stupid unwind angles

Postby cglazier » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:45 pm

What does “hooning along” mean?

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Re: The back drag and stupid unwind angles

Postby Kamikuza » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:41 am

cglazier wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:45 pm
What does “hooning along” mean?
😂

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Re: The back drag and stupid unwind angles

Postby plummet » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:44 am

Kamikuza wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:41 am
cglazier wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:45 pm
What does “hooning along” mean?
😂
Don't people hoon in other countries.?

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Re: The back drag and stupid unwind angles

Postby Kamikuza » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:53 am

plummet wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:44 am
Kamikuza wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:41 am
cglazier wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:45 pm
What does “hooning along” mean?
😂
Don't people hoon in other countries.?
The thing in the video is American. Can't understand why a Canuck doesn't get the Queen's English though ;)



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Re: The back drag and stupid unwind angles

Postby Peter_Frank » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:18 am

plummet wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:44 am
Kamikuza wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:41 am
cglazier wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:45 pm
What does “hooning along” mean?
😂
Don't people hoon in other countries.?

I would think so - but we dont know what it is either?

When I read the words I thought it was local slang for "Yelling out loud of joy", just like we do when suddenly succeeding with something difficult on the water.

But when googling you get as said, used by car racers driving recklessly, or general abuse, or for a pimp, or for having sex, or for vomiting all over :rollgrin:


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