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F-one Breeze v1 vs v2 for beginner

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:11 pm
by VillamZ
Just recently got a foil (f-one 850), but still lack of the kite to go above it. I was considering the Breeze, tried the 17 last year with TT, in really light wind it was really stable and easy to relaunch. Now I am planning to get a 13m v1 for foil (beginning). Anyone tried this size? I am 80kg. Thanks a mill

Re: F-one Breeze v1 vs v2 for beginner

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:34 pm
by K-Roy
I got the Breeze V2 11m and very happy with it.
For 80kg and low wind conditions, I would go for the 13m.

cheers

Re: F-one Breeze v1 vs v2 for beginner

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:30 am
by Slyde
You don’t need any fancy new kites to learn to foil. I would suggest using what you are used to unless it is really big. You don’t want to learn in marginal conditions. Use your normal twintip sized kites for the first few goes so you can hang off them a bit. Once you have the feel of it then you can downsize. Once you can foil comfortably with regular winds and kites you can push the low wind envelope with a fancy new kite and by then you will know if you want 11 m or 13.

Re: F-one Breeze v1 vs v2 for beginner

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:14 am
by slowboat
Slyde wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:30 am
You don’t need any fancy new kites to learn to foil. I would suggest using what you are used to unless it is really big. You don’t want to learn in marginal conditions. Use your normal twintip sized kites for the first few goes so you can hang off them a bit. Once you have the feel of it then you can downsize. Once you can foil comfortably with regular winds and kites you can push the low wind envelope with a fancy new kite and by then you will know if you want 11 m or 13.
this is good advice

Re: F-one Breeze v1 vs v2 for beginner

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:10 am
by VillamZ
Slyde wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:30 am
You don’t need any fancy new kites to learn to foil. I would suggest using what you are used to unless it is really big. You don’t want to learn in marginal conditions. Use your normal twintip sized kites for the first few goes so you can hang off them a bit. Once you have the feel of it then you can downsize. Once you can foil comfortably with regular winds and kites you can push the low wind envelope with a fancy new kite and by then you will know if you want 11 m or 13.
Would love to use my old kite, the problem is, I don't have one at the moment. That is why I am planning to buy one :)

My question is in general if anyone has experience with the Breeze, I got great reviews from good foilers around me, just wanted a second opinion :)

Re: F-one Breeze v1 vs v2 for beginner

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:03 pm
by robclaisse
I've just started riding F-one and ride the Mirage 800 (similar to the 850) and pocket 130. I have a 15m Breeze v2 and love it! I'm 105kg so take that in to account (for 80kg, I think the 13m would probably be perfect).

It amazing the number of times that kite has saved me from sitting on the beach unable to ride. What I love about the breeze is that I can ride in 6-10 knots, have enough power to do everything and importantly it is super stable overhead, even in the right light stuff. Loops well too. In my mind, it is definitely a rival for the Airush Ultra's light wind LEI crown. The only downside is it can get overpowered, on a foil, in 11-12 knots but then my 11m Bandit is working great - this will probably be slightly less noticeable on the smaller 1-strut kites. If you want a bigger range from a lightwind kite then you probably want to start thinking about a foil kite.

Disclaimer: F-one UK help me out with kit so take that into account but honestly if I didn't like the kite I just won't say anything on here :)

Re: F-one Breeze v1 vs v2 for beginner

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:32 am
by VillamZ
According to f-one, the wind range of the Breeze 13 m v1 should be around 8-20 knots. So should I take this with a grain of salt? Or that is true to TT and not to foil? How bad is when you get overpowered on the foil?

Re: F-one Breeze v1 vs v2 for beginner

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:48 am
by robclaisse
^ Yeah that wind range isn't for foiling. 13m in 20 knots on a twintip is doable but not on a foil - you'll be good up to about 15 knots on a foil but probably pretty powered up and will have more fun on a smaller kite. But that also depends on your foil - smaller front wing and you'll be able to handle more power, bigger front wing you'll get overpowered quicker and your foiling experience should be factored in too - sorry it's never quite as straight forward as a certain size kite in a certain wind!

Re: F-one Breeze v1 vs v2 for beginner

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:11 am
by ankers
i use V1 13m for foiling from 7knots onwards (not less) up to 12-13, as i can then change to 8m cloud

Its not a bad kite at all. but compared to clouds......
Its stable and has good range