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Re: Adapter to use Moses with inexpensive Aluminum Slingshot Masts

Postby Brizair10 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:35 am

I did ask them. They have a super friendly service.
A complete Slingshot package including mast, plate and Adapter is just 200 $...
So it´s easier to get the package.
Good deal, by the way.

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Re: Adapter to use Moses with inexpensive Aluminum Slingshot Masts

Postby grigorib » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:23 pm

Foil wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:11 am
grigorib wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:19 am
Brizair10 wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:38 pm
The Cabrinha hole spacing is about ¼” off as with all brands they are different. Only slingshot seems to fit.
Call Houston kiteboarding. They might be able to make a piece with custom spacing for you. It’s just a hole off and they can extend their offering to lure Cabrinha owners to ride pretty Mosses wings.
As long as you can measure it precisely.
looking at the adaptor I dont think it can be altered in any way, the wall thickness between the 8mm bolt holes for the mast and the 6mm fuse holes run closely together, so enlarging the holes looks nigh impossible,
making a new adaptor will be needed imo,
it is though a very neat bit of kit, not something I could knock up in my garage, that's for sure
I spoke to guys, they said they make adapters themselves so why not extending line of adapters to support Cabrinha masts. Obviously M6 holes are static related to the fuselage insert portion, but other pair can be moved as necessary.

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Re: Adapter to use Moses with inexpensive Aluminum Slingshot Masts

Postby Foil » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:47 pm

Used the 2019 slingshot mast with this adaptor today in strong winds, my buddy was on a 4.5mtr / 70kg, and I was on my smallest kite a 6mtr reo /90kg, 633 wing.
water shape was wind chop with short spaced waves moving fast,
this showed up the limitations of the 74cm mast,
it was too short to relax and enjoy the conditions to the full, I did get better at controlling my behaviour to suit the mast and chop, but at times it was very limiting, speed was held back a lot, carves had to be well planned, and I had to hit each wave with the bottom of my board to ensure I did not fly out the other side through fresh air.
But I cant complain too much, as the session was still good in the shallow water,
I did find out that the best way to start off in the shallows was to start on toeside as this kept foot pressure light as I popped up on a kite loop, this gave me the confidence to go in close to shore around waist deep and enjoy the waves that jack up close in.
after discovering this way of getting up with ease in shallow water I ordered a longer slingshot mast as soon as I got back to my car, the 36inch, still shorter than my regular 101 mast, but it should work well.
I now have full confidence in this cheap 2019 slingshot mast with adaptor, to be honest apart from the weight when under my arm walking to the water I can't tell any difference to my carbon Moses when on the water, its smooth as silk, no hum, and can be thrown around the corners and waves like a mad thing, and the bonus is the board never sits on it side.good job as some of my wipe outs involved great superman impressions landing a long way down wind.
looking quality in the new black and gold helps raise a smile as well.
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Re: Adapter to use Moses with inexpensive Aluminum Slingshot Masts

Postby grigorib » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:22 pm

Mine is different and I received it today.
71cm mast with mast plate and adapter is about 29.5” (750mm). Very pretty piece. Weighs 5.25 lbs compared to 2.7 lbs of Moses 71cm mast. Quite extra weight
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Re: Adapter to use Moses with inexpensive Aluminum Slingshot Masts

Postby grigorib » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:58 am

Relative mast position comparison, measured “stabilizer to the wall”
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Re: Adapter to use Moses with inexpensive Aluminum Slingshot Masts

Postby Foil » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:51 am

looks like a little refinement has been done to neaten it up,
I was wondering if this is a 3d printed bit of kit?
feels too heavy to be simple aluminium, I wonder what the material is, an alloy of some sort?

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Re: Adapter to use Moses with inexpensive Aluminum Slingshot Masts

Postby grigorib » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:15 am

Foil wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:51 am
looks like a little refinement has been done to neaten it up,
I was wondering if this is a 3d printed bit of kit?
feels too heavy to be simple aluminium, I wonder what the material is, an alloy of some sort?
It’s from a different source. CNC. Aluminum alloy

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Re: Adapter to use Moses with inexpensive Aluminum Slingshot Masts

Postby richy-c » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:18 am

Foil wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:47 pm
Used the 2019 slingshot mast with this adaptor today in strong winds, my buddy was on a 4.5mtr / 70kg, and I was on my smallest kite a 6mtr reo /90kg, 633 wing.
water shape was wind chop with short spaced waves moving fast,
this showed up the limitations of the 74cm mast,
it was too short to relax and enjoy the conditions to the full, I did get better at controlling my behaviour to suit the mast and chop, but at times it was very limiting, speed was held back a lot, carves had to be well planned, and I had to hit each wave with the bottom of my board to ensure I did not fly out the other side through fresh air.
But I cant complain too much, as the session was still good in the shallow water,
I did find out that the best way to start off in the shallows was to start on toeside as this kept foot pressure light as I popped up on a kite loop, this gave me the confidence to go in close to shore around waist deep and enjoy the waves that jack up close in.
after discovering this way of getting up with ease in shallow water I ordered a longer slingshot mast as soon as I got back to my car, the 36inch, still shorter than my regular 101 mast, but it should work well.
I now have full confidence in this cheap 2019 slingshot mast with adaptor, to be honest apart from the weight when under my arm walking to the water I can't tell any difference to my carbon Moses when on the water, its smooth as silk, no hum, and can be thrown around the corners and waves like a mad thing, and the bonus is the board never sits on it side.good job as some of my wipe outs involved great superman impressions landing a long way down wind.
looking quality in the new black and gold helps raise a smile as well.
very confusing as a newby to foiling. Can you explain to me why a few riders are telling me that 70 cm mast is good for wave riding if it bottoming out luke that?

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Re: Adapter to use Moses with inexpensive Aluminum Slingshot Masts

Postby TomW » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:41 am

Hej Grigorib

where did you get that adapter ?

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Re: Adapter to use Moses with inexpensive Aluminum Slingshot Masts

Postby TomW » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:45 am

richy-c wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:18 am
Foil wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:47 pm
Used the 2019 slingshot mast with this adaptor today in strong winds, my buddy was on a 4.5mtr / 70kg, and I was on my smallest kite a 6mtr reo /90kg, 633 wing.
water shape was wind chop with short spaced waves moving fast,
this showed up the limitations of the 74cm mast,
it was too short to relax and enjoy the conditions to the full, I did get better at controlling my behaviour to suit the mast and chop, but at times it was very limiting, speed was held back a lot, carves had to be well planned, and I had to hit each wave with the bottom of my board to ensure I did not fly out the other side through fresh air.
But I cant complain too much, as the session was still good in the shallow water,
I did find out that the best way to start off in the shallows was to start on toeside as this kept foot pressure light as I popped up on a kite loop, this gave me the confidence to go in close to shore around waist deep and enjoy the waves that jack up close in.
after discovering this way of getting up with ease in shallow water I ordered a longer slingshot mast as soon as I got back to my car, the 36inch, still shorter than my regular 101 mast, but it should work well.
I now have full confidence in this cheap 2019 slingshot mast with adaptor, to be honest apart from the weight when under my arm walking to the water I can't tell any difference to my carbon Moses when on the water, its smooth as silk, no hum, and can be thrown around the corners and waves like a mad thing, and the bonus is the board never sits on it side.good job as some of my wipe outs involved great superman impressions landing a long way down wind.
looking quality in the new black and gold helps raise a smile as well.
very confusing as a newby to foiling. Can you explain to me why a few riders are telling me that 70 cm mast is good for wave riding if it bottoming out luke that?
Ive been foiling 3 years on 93cm mast: never tried a shorter mast. Friends that have, say its not making any difference in feel on the wave. What it does do, it allows you to go into shallower water and get into more waves. at our spots, windwaves build an break in shallow water. Having used the 93 the whole time, i cant imagine going shorter- I´m still having to pay attention to altitude and angles when carving so as not to ventilate.


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