My bad, sorry for assuming wrong about the surfing.junebug wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:20 amYou misunderstand me. I said I like *turning* the board as fast as I can, not *going* as fast as I can. When I go in the waves, I surf them (or try to, anyway) up and down the wave face instead of zipping around in them. I’m aware of the problem of keeping the kite in the air as you are riding down the line towards it, but I generally only have that problem in light wind with bigger kites. On a light wind day, you aren’t going to have any fun at all on one of these wings anyway.
At the end of the day, I think we are saying the same thing: In the ideal conditions for the wing, I’m always going to have more fun on a kite.
Not sure I agree on your final point, but maybe that's because I've kinda transitioned this winter to more sup foiling than kiting on the marginal wind days. If the wind allowed me to sup foil for hours at a time, endlessly gliding and swooping turns on never ending waves, without paddling ... I'd be all over that.
Same on the light wind days ... if the wind is too light to kite and there's swells that aren't paddle surfable, if I could have a tool that would allow me to play in those swells, sign me up.
Maybe I am chasing unicorns, conditions that aren't likely to come together or expecting more from the gear than is possible, but I guess I am on Team Glass Half Full.