ScoopZ wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:31 amI have the same foil, I don't think the carver wing will reduce the overall speed to allow you to learn manoeuvres any easier. The market literally changed a year after the white and green came out and now wing sizes in the surf 1000-1200 seem to be the new standard to increase progression time.
The Zeeko is a great freeride foil but needs possibly 20-30 hours depending on the person. There's a great youtube series by the guy who was learning with it. I'd say stick with it if your are getting good learning conditions.
Im not getting regular wind conditions I need for mine and I'm probably changing to the Neil Pryde surf foil.
What are you using? Zeeko seems to be lagging behind in the trend to oversized "surf" wings. I'm currently using the Carver wing. I sometimes wonder if it's creating too much lift. Have yet to try the standard Zeeko "free ride" wing - scared to change anything as I go through the learning process.jumptheshark wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:17 pmI found the step up to the carver wing from the freeride wing made a big difference to the ease of learning transitions and foot switches. It was my third season so there was a lot of natural learning curve going on as well, but I immediately felt happy to have a wing I could slow down on and not come off the foil. The top speed is not that different, more that you can get up and stay up at lower speeds. Effectively we all start out transitions and foot switches going a little too slow, or at least coming out of them too slow, so that extra wing surface had me completing things successfully earlier that I would have on the freeride wing. Getting a move without the extra 25-50 falls was well worth it.
Have moved on to an even bigger wing with no regrets.
I get that. I'm using a Jim Stringfellow aftermarket wing. His larger wing. It's around 1200 square cm and quite different from the carver in a few ways, but the main one is simply down to surface area. Takes very little speed to get up and stay up, but I really liked the carver wing. I wouldn't worry about it being too much lift. It goes plenty fast without seeking up too much. Zeeko stuff is a pretty safe bet. It just works well.
Did you cut your mast down? The other thing is that I feel a longer mast might result in less breaching & consequent wipeouts. However, I'm still at the point where I'm just riding straight, not successfully jibing the foil, so maneuverability isn't really an issue yet. Might give the free ride wing a shot next time. I also have an LP carbon foil. It has a 720 sq.cm wing which looks similar in size to the Carver, but with a dihedral swoop.jumptheshark wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:21 pmI get that. I'm using a Jim Stringfellow aftermarket wing. His larger wing. It's around 1200 square cm and quite different from the carver in a few ways, but the main one is simply down to surface area. Takes very little speed to get up and stay up, but I really liked the carver wing. I wouldn't worry about it being too much lift. It goes plenty fast without seeking up too much. Zeeko stuff is a pretty safe bet. It just works well.
On the subject of change, in going to the carver and now to the stringy, I found both were changes to the easier end of the spectrum. It was no issue to get up and steady first time out and all the stuff I was working on at that time came faster. I bet I would have a harder time going back to the stock freeride wing!