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(almost) tool-less foil setups

Postby bricedenice » Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:00 pm

Are there any tool-less kitefoil setups on the market? If not, which are the easiest ones to setup (attach mast to fuselage and/or front wing to fuselage), and attach mast to the board in terms of time, easiness and number of screws?

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Re: (almost) tool-less foil setups

Postby jumptheshark » Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:51 pm

THIS!

We've almost got standard board mounting accomplished, now we should get standardized wing mounting. Simple strong flat mounting surface between fuse and wing with standardized hole spacing. Wouldn't that be great? Instead we will get more proprietary parts.

At least we can count on development catering to convenience and someday get foils that will have simple cam snap together components.

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Re: (almost) tool-less foil setups

Postby tmcfarla » Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:56 pm

Lift foils are very easy, with only 2 small screws to attach mast to fuselage/wings. But it is just two pieces, so not the most travel-friendly. Depending on salinity of your water, you may be able to leave any foil partially assembled.

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Re: (almost) tool-less foil setups

Postby geokite » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:29 pm

But the lift foils still needs a mallet to remove from the mast. No amount of grease has eliminated my need for a mallet.

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Re: (almost) tool-less foil setups

Postby jyka » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:35 pm

I have been waiting for quick attach system, because foil won't fit into my car and I hate the screwdriving job.
Naish abracadabra is the best what I have seen, only one screw. Please all the others, how hard can it be to build quick attach system? :D


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Re: (almost) tool-less foil setups

Postby BWD » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:37 pm

That naish system looks smart!

Ketos has only one screw for board:mast and mast:fuselage, 2 screws each for wings.
Only one tool is needed, supplied with the foil:
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Before they switched to torx screws, the tool had only one bit!
A standard hex wrench will work on the torx screws, in case you lose the torx tool.

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Re: (almost) tool-less foil setups

Postby jakemoore » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:03 pm

jumptheshark wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:51 pm
We've almost got standard board mounting accomplished
I have to say that after moving from a plate to a box, mounting the foil with just one Torx screw is a luxury I would hate to give up. The plate is in the opposite direction of tool-less.

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Re: (almost) tool-less foil setups

Postby tegirinenashi » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:12 pm

jakemoore wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:03 pm
jumptheshark wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:51 pm
We've almost got standard board mounting accomplished
I have to say that after moving from a plate to a box, mounting the foil with just one Torx screw is a luxury I would hate to give up. The plate is in the opposite direction of tool-less.
Unless you use electric screwdriver, one bolt screwed the full length is more work than just sliding 4 already mounted bolts into the plate, and tightening each with quarter turn. I even added foam pads to block the release holes in the middle of the tracks, so that bolts with T-nuts obtain permanent residence in the tracks.

This solution is for alum only, of course, because I never saw carbon plates with open holes. I'm currently experimenting if carbon plate with open holes works...

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Re: (almost) tool-less foil setups

Postby Horst Sergio » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:51 pm

jakemoore wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:03 pm
I have to say that after moving from a plate to a box, mounting the foil with just one Torx screw is a luxury I would hate to give up. The plate is in the opposite direction of tool-less.
Understand this, especially if you have to dismount for transport, but on the other hand, I would never give up plate, which on one hand has become the standard and on the other hand enables to setup pressure point on tracks, which would be inaccebtable to give up for me.

Just a small tool-less part, but better than nothing tool-less: :wink:

Loxx Fastener for straps, not easy to mount on the straps but if once done:

I have now 3 boards with the conections, but just one pair of straps, if I use another board, where I want straps or another strap setting (size or style), I just change straps in 10 sec, even while riding. :D
x-Loxx-Fastener_Straps2.jpg
Oh and I have some doupts about the Naish abracadabra. Haven't had it hand, but not sure about stiffness, weight and stability. Would even think about to buy it if it is realy good as my GONG struts are the same so compatible. But another point is: GONG plate costs 30 € and Naish 200 € have doupts in combination with named technical points that it is worth it.

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Re: (almost) tool-less foil setups

Postby philmont » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:24 pm

Is this what you are looking for (at least for the mast/board disconnect)? Fast Mast (Stringy design) quick release from NSI in Hood River.
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