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Re: New hydrofoil / wave kite and bar: Kauper-XT

Postby sebi » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:51 am

Cannot understand why people still use and trust this outdated wichard system which created and will create a lot of accidential releases. Accidential release could be dangerous if everything is going wrong. So you need to take that seriously.

IMO the best release system/chicken loop on the market is the SKClickClick:


I know the designer and it took him 3 years to think it out and get it to the market. It's simplicity and features are at the top of the game.

Rainer should cooperate with him and ditch the outdated wichard.

Have seen the Pintxo bar and it's a piece of art. Will get one but without wichard.

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Re: New hydrofoil / wave kite and bar: Kauper-XT

Postby nixmatters » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:40 am

And now SK Shapes have a very decent contender!


Come on Rainer, you've got more options :wink:
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Re: New hydrofoil / wave kite and bar: Kauper-XT

Postby Sbrinckman » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:01 am

Not much activity in this thread. A video which was posted in the German forum on light wind relaunch.


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Re: New hydrofoil / wave kite and bar: Kauper-XT

Postby sedelito » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:04 pm

dan_kan wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:35 pm
With 2 unexpected releases by wichard snap shakle on my last deep water foil trip I've almost gave up on this shakle but after last mod with the addition secure I will give it a last try..
I have added a stretch rope that increase needed release force up to ~2-3kg (need to examin) with still easy usage while snaping.. check the pics below:
IMG_20200609_201301.jpg
IMG_20200609_201229.jpg
Genius! Works really well😀

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Re: New hydrofoil / wave kite and bar: Kauper-XT

Postby alowishus » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:45 am

Ditch the wich.

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Re: New hydrofoil / wave kite and bar: Kauper-XT

Postby Averagejoel » Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:18 pm

dan_kan wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:35 pm
With 2 unexpected releases by wichard snap shakle on my last deep water foil trip I've almost gave up on this shakle but after last mod with the addition secure I will give it a last try..
I have added a stretch rope that increase needed release force up to ~2-3kg (need to examin) with still easy usage while snaping.. check the pics below:
IMG_20200609_201301.jpg
IMG_20200609_201229.jpg
Did this fix improve your wichard reliability?

I wonder If the cause for unexpected releases only lay in differences in use, or if there is a tolerance factor to the polished latch tab and the spring. As we are not using it as intended by wichard with a Spinnaker/gennaker setup on a boat but rather in a tight spot where body, harness, board and other stuff are present at times, small differences in tolerance could very well be the cause for success or fail.

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Re: New hydrofoil / wave kite and bar: Kauper-XT

Postby juanpasala » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:18 pm

Averagejoel wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:18 pm
dan_kan wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:35 pm
With 2 unexpected releases by wichard snap shakle on my last deep water foil trip I've almost gave up on this shakle but after last mod with the addition secure I will give it a last try..
I have added a stretch rope that increase needed release force up to ~2-3kg (need to examin) with still easy usage while snaping.. check the pics below:
IMG_20200609_201301.jpg
IMG_20200609_201229.jpg
Did this fix improve your wichard reliability?

I wonder If the cause for unexpected releases only lay in differences in use, or if there is a tolerance factor to the polished latch tab and the spring. As we are not using it as intended by wichard with a Spinnaker/gennaker setup on a boat but rather in a tight spot where body, harness, board and other stuff are present at times, small differences in tolerance could very well be the cause for success or fail.
I really dont know what you guys are talking about.
Been using the Wichard for two years and got 0 acciedental releases.
Fin it much more convenient thanm other systems as i only need one for all 4 bars i use with it
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Re: New hydrofoil / wave kite and bar: Kauper-XT

Postby nixmatters » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:49 pm

juanpasala wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:18 pm
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Been using the Wichard for two years and got 0 acciedental releases.
Fin it much more convenient thanm other systems as i only need one for all 4 bars i use with it
That's exactly the concept of Infexion - 1 minimalistic QR attached to the harness for all your bars.

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Re: hydrofoil / wave kite and bar: Kauper-XT

Postby downunder » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:10 pm

But Nix,

Here is a catch:

Whicha is and it will be available in every corner on the Planet ;)

It will outlive ALL releases ever made.

And on releases topic, which grand brand had a major flaw?

None of our local riders are using any of above. But many are using W. Me too.

My FS release opened many times. No one is pulling it from the market.

Any plastic on any bar will not last as long as W. Proven over the years.

But sure, if can get one from above cheap, will give it a go.

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Re: New hydrofoil / wave kite and bar: Kauper-XT

Postby downunder » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:19 pm

sebi wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:51 am
Cannot understand why people still use and trust this outdated wichard system which created and will create a lot of accidential releases. Accidential release could be dangerous if everything is going wrong. So you need to take that seriously.

IMO the best release system/chicken loop on the market is the SKClickClick:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CBACt5HH8qS/?igshid=7y0ym1b4ivdb

I know the designer and it took him 3 years to think it out and get it to the market. It's simplicity and features are at the top of the game.

Rainer should cooperate with him and ditch the outdated wichard.

Have seen the Pintxo bar and it's a piece of art. Will get one but without wichard.
Looks great.

Thanks for posting. It this ALU?

Re Witcha, it is not that big deal for HF. We do not even use leash any more since riding in closed inlet. So, horses for courses...


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