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Re: Spaceskate - it's limits?

Postby grigorib » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:27 am

LeoLeal wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:05 am
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- When I use this front wing with my kite I feel that I have to put too much force on my back foot and almost nothing to my front foot, so should I move my plate to front or back of my board?
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Move your mast forward by 1.5-2” and adjust from there

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Re: Spaceskate - it's limits?

Postby bkkite » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:52 am

Whattheflock wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:26 pm
Space skate was bat wing or also H4. The original was the H5 or NF 2 and now I believe timecode 57cm. I have both. I love the h4 though, I've hit 39kmh and as slow as 13kmh through my GPS watch. If you crave something different go for it!

Not to highjack the thread, but slingshot and moses were/are together right? Moses has the 683 wing, does slingshot make a wing similar to that?

Think it’s called the Apollo 60?

Was considering that one for my first upgrade wing

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Re: Spaceskate - it's limits?

Postby grigorib » Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:13 am

Go carbon

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Re: Spaceskate - it's limits?

Postby Whattheflock » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:45 pm

grigorib wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:13 am
Go carbon
Took your, well "most" of your advice and went with the 633/483/91 (instead of the 683/679) and a Dwarfcraft 3'6". Love the 633. Had it out in around 10knots on an aluula roam 10m, then my flite 10m with wind at 12-14knots and the my 7m prodigy from 12-14knots down to 8 or 9knots. Did my first 360's on it yesterday! Super stoked!

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Re: Spaceskate - it's limits?

Postby grigorib » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:20 pm

Whattheflock wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:45 pm
grigorib wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:13 am
Go carbon
Took your, well "most" of your advice ..
Which of my advice you thought would be not the best choice?

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Re: Spaceskate - it's limits?

Postby Whattheflock » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:28 pm

grigorib wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:20 pm
Whattheflock wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:45 pm
grigorib wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:13 am
Go carbon
Took your, well "most" of your advice ..
Which of my advice you thought would be not the best choice?
You said 633 would be good, but 679/683 would be better for my size but went with the former.

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Re: Spaceskate - it's limits?

Postby knyfe » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:48 pm

I also use a spaceskate as front wing working on my gybes at the moment. But I realized that the rides started to be boring. Not sure if it’s foiling itself or just the big wing. I switched to the yellow front wing (not sure what specific it is) I had as well. I assume my gybing attempts to be even worse but at least some more speed fun will come back. Have not tried yet.
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Re: Spaceskate - it's limits?

Postby Whattheflock » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:08 pm

knyfe wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:48 pm
I also use a spaceskate as front wing working on my gybes at the moment. But I realized that the rides started to be boring. Not sure if it’s foiling itself or just the big wing. I switched to the yellow front wing (not sure what specific it is) I had as well. I assume my gybing attempts to be even worse but at least some more speed fun will come back. Have not tried yet.
Boring?? really?? unfathomable!! .. Duck tacks, roll tacks, 360s, sit downs, foot changes, so much stuff to learn and master!!
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Re: Spaceskate - it's limits?

Postby Peter_Frank » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:13 pm

I can reckognize this - at some size wing it begins to be boring indeed, difficult to explain, but what happens is you can feel the drag, and low speed, and it simply feels "draggy" and less free and easy.

Not a problem if small or big waves to play around in, but otherwise, yes, a tad faster (in speed) wing is more fun in my experience also :thumb:

8) Peter

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Re: Spaceskate - it's limits?

Postby Whattheflock » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:25 pm

Peter_Frank wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:13 pm
I can reckognize this - at some size wing it begins to be boring indeed, difficult to explain, but what happens is you can feel the drag, and low speed, and it simply feels "draggy" and less free and easy.

Not a problem if small or big waves to play around in, but otherwise, yes, a tad faster (in speed) wing is more fun in my experience also :thumb:

8) Peter
Maybe I don't get out enough.. I am looking for a "racier" foil setup for windier days though.. Thinking 558 to compliment the 633..


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