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Re: Moses 720

Postby Foil » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:58 am

grigorib wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:08 am
How would you compare 720 vs. 590?
I have only sailed the 720 for two short periods, I used the 720 that belongs to steve above in his detailed post, I need to try his 720 again to trim the mast position and maybe use a tiny shim to get it right for me,the shim steve has used in the second test was too thick for me,
but there are very stark differences to the 590 which I did own for 6 months.
so my comparison is missing much detail.
The big shock is the explosive lift in little wind,much much more than the 590, the wind on testing day one was maximum 8 knots and dropping to near nothing a few hours later, so the the fast rise from the water was pleasing as it then just shot off at high speed with silky smoothness, delivering long smooth drawn out carves, the wide arc of the carve was very stable, super stable, upwind felt fast, high and locked in, much faster smoother response from low to high speed than I remember my 590 was, and far more stable, very little twitch or wobble going into a turn,
but the 720 needed trimming for me to push it to higher speeds as the lift was too hard, too far forward for high speed control, with trim dialed in for me then I am sure the 720 will hit very impressive sustainable speed.
before anyone asks the foil sinks quickly, and will not float the board on its edge,
It's one of the nicest looking foils out there, it just looks so fast and sleek, but not flimsy fragile, fitted to the fuse and stab its still very light, not as light as the 590 but looks and feels less fragile, the tips are strongly made, not as easy to chip as all the earlier moses wings with super thin pointy ends.
if the wind picks up today we will be out again for day 3 test.
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Re: Moses 720

Postby PurdyKiter » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:53 pm

grigorib wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:08 am
How would you compare 720 vs. 590?
This might sound a bit odd, but I jury-rigged a 483 stailizer onto the older 2016-17 Slingshot/Moses fuselage and 590. I did this with very very careful hours long gentle sanding to the fuse. Now I love this setup and lately have shelved my 633/483 for the 590/483. When I read the review here I feel like I could say the exact same about my franken-foil setup. I'm considering purchasing a 450 stabilizer.... but I'm giving my credit card a brief vacation.

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Re: Moses 720

Postby Sfollis » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:52 pm

I can only compare it with the following:

- 558 - some similarities in speed sensation, but as the 720 is more stable and it is much quicker for me. The 720 also has much more lift so foiling immediately on the first half dive of the kite.

- 633 - 15-20% quicker on the 720. 720 more stable yet not as easy to foot switch gybe and tack as there is less lift when going slow and turning radius is greater compared to the 633. Therefore more speed must be carried on the transitions. 633 is still the best foil out there for all round fun with a decent top end speed.

683 - 5-8% quicker on the 720 and a lot smoother on the 720. Same comparison as with 633 for transitions.

790 - similar stable feeling to the 720 yet 30% quicker on the 720. Of course there is less lift with the 720 compared to the 790 so loads of time to foot switch during transitions on the 790.

Today I used a 1.5degree shim on the rear stabiliser which is possibly perfect for me. Once again, the risk of cavitation is very small. If the wing tip breaches at high speed, only a slight sideways slip sensation is experienced instead of an immediate wipeout that I am more use to on the 683 and many times on the 558.

What speeds have you reached on the 590 and/or other foils?
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Re: Moses 720

Postby keskopesko » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:01 pm

Great comparing table :)

So 720 best for fast and stable riding and 790 for easy, slow, low wind riding?
633 best alrounder?

Can you correct me?

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Re: Moses 720

Postby Sfollis » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:05 pm

Correct, that’s my opinion based on the various sessions I’ve had up to now.

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Re: Moses 720

Postby Sfollis » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:20 am

A little video footage of the 720 in action


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Re: Moses 720

Postby a99 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:17 am

can understand why 720 is not in stock chart on moses website ? it's imposssible to buy simply.

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Re: Moses 720

Postby handy » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:31 am

don't know what you mean, they just say "low stock" not "NO stock"

https://store.moseshydrofoil.com/produc ... 0-balz-pro

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Re: Moses 720

Postby Sfollis » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:03 pm

I got mine through Boardworx (5-7 day delivered). I now hear they will soon release under the kiteline as the “718”.

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Re: Moses 720

Postby Jimmy Mazzanti » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:05 pm

buy from your local dealer. Low stock means 10 to 20 pieces
Just order the wing or any other item from your shop and we will send it worldwide to our dealers #supportlocalscene


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