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Re: No endless summer - drysuit or wetsuit for foiling?

Postby matth » Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:29 pm

Windigo1 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:24 am
I wear a wetsuit until about mid October here in Canada an then a drysuit until it freezes over. The drysuit is much warmer you can layer as much as you want. It's nice to change back too you just put your jeans back on you don't have to undress. Go with a drysuit with integrated socks it's much warmer and more watertight.

How do you find the socks work with your booties???? I would like to go with socks but never have because of this concern.

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Re: No endless summer - drysuit or wetsuit for foiling?

Postby elguapo » Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:51 pm

matth wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:29 pm
Windigo1 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:24 am
I wear a wetsuit until about mid October here in Canada an then a drysuit until it freezes over. The drysuit is much warmer you can layer as much as you want. It's nice to change back too you just put your jeans back on you don't have to undress. Go with a drysuit with integrated socks it's much warmer and more watertight.

How do you find the socks work with your booties???? I would like to go with socks but never have because of this concern.
the 'integrated socks' are attached to dryuits...

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you can wear whatever socks on your feet you wanna(i dont generally need)...

i wear a pair a tom's type slips on outside of drysuit sock (protection from rocks...but easy to take on/off)

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Re: No endless summer - drysuit or wetsuit for foiling?

Postby PurdyKiter » Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:15 pm

matth wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:27 pm
Drysuits are great IMO but if you are still crashing often you will get some water in the suit. The key to drysuits is to layer up with wicking fleece that almost works like neoprene when wet. I think the odds of cutting the suit are slim, gortex is a very tough fabric and most suit have double layers in most areas.
I have an older ION drysuit which is constructed of 3mil closed cell neoprene. This has made it still seem warm after some leaks I've had in 45 degree water, 45 degree air. Down-side is that it's a bulkier suit.
My compelling reasoning with a drysuit is all about the evaporative effects. This occurs while de-rigigng, while racing the the (small) car to change, but can also out on the foil. With a wetsuit I'm almost always chattering cold by the time I've changed into my street clothes for the drive home. Never an issue with my drysuit.
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Re: No endless summer - drysuit or wetsuit for foiling?

Postby matth » Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:54 pm

elguapo wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:51 pm
matth wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:29 pm
Windigo1 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:24 am
I wear a wetsuit until about mid October here in Canada an then a drysuit until it freezes over. The drysuit is much warmer you can layer as much as you want. It's nice to change back too you just put your jeans back on you don't have to undress. Go with a drysuit with integrated socks it's much warmer and more watertight.

How do you find the socks work with your booties???? I would like to go with socks but never have because of this concern.
the 'integrated socks' are attached to dryuits...

Image

you can wear whatever socks on your feet you wanna(i dont generally need)...

i wear a pair a tom's type slips on outside of drysuit sock (protection from rocks...but easy to take on/off)

Image
So you don't wear a water bootie over the goretex drysock???

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Re: No endless summer - drysuit or wetsuit for foiling?

Postby elguapo » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:13 pm

no..
too hard to get (on) off. (and not needed)



i just rode a foil last time i was in cold water..
i just wanted something cheap....and easy to put on or off...and would protect my sensitive feet (and the sock material) from rocks as i walk out

when cold i just wanna shed everything off in one motion...hop in my car and go.

i literally only bought those shoes cause they were $7 USD and amazon could deliver next day
.. any slip style shoe wouldve worked

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Re: No endless summer - drysuit or wetsuit for foiling?

Postby Whattheflock » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:53 am

I love my OR drysuit.. My boots come up over the seals and the suit extends down kinda far, enough I don't worry about my foil hitting it. There's a small chance though. Peeling off a dry suit and being nice and dry and warm makes it well worth it.

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Re: No endless summer - drysuit or wetsuit for foiling?

Postby br44 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:19 am

PurdyKiter wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:15 pm
My compelling reasoning with a drysuit is all about the evaporative effects. This occurs while de-rigigng, while racing the the (small) car to change, but can also out on the foil. With a wetsuit I'm almost always chattering cold by the time I've changed into my street clothes for the drive home. Never an issue with my drysuit.
Why change into regular clothes for the drive home? Unless it’s warm outside, I usually take off my wetsuit in the garage, or even shower — not at the beach.

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Re: No endless summer - drysuit or wetsuit for foiling?

Postby Huib » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:52 am

I have a 7/6mm hooded wetsuit and a OR drysuit. A drysuit is warmer on the foil because you have less windchill and is easier with changing clothes.
But I don't wear the drysuit on the foil.
The risk of cutting the drysuit with a wing is to big!
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Re: No endless summer - drysuit or wetsuit for foiling?

Postby elguapo » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:59 pm

Huib wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:52 am
I have a 7/6mm hooded wetsuit and a OR drysuit. A drysuit is warmer on the foil because you have less windchill and is easier with changing clothes.
But I don't wear the drysuit on the foil.
The risk of cutting the drysuit with a wing is to big!


(knock on wood) but i'm failing to see how cutting yourself on a foil would be an issue... (just dont kick the foil...and jump way from foil when learning)
do you guys cut yourself often wearing boardshorts too?
(and how?)




on the kayak/kokatat drysuits... there is extra abrasion resistance on arms & legs and there is a "stay dry" warranty/repair service.
https://kokatat.com/support/warranty-repairs

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Re: No endless summer - drysuit or wetsuit for foiling?

Postby cwood » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:28 pm

Up in Toronto we have all gone pretty much to 6/5 Excel hooded wet suits with a neprene over sweatshirt/jacket. Way warmer than drysuits, no leakage worries, no baggyness. Toasty warm to 0 degrees C. The limiting factor is hands, you have to go mitts as gloves just cannot work at those temps. Feet are not an issue for whatever reason. The overcoat in neoprene is key for core temps.

We have all done the best OR and Mystic dry suits.....they are nice but don't compare to a well fitted thick wetsuit.
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