To be honest, I was laughing at foiling in general back then!
Give it time. Oyvind was the first guy to really show that you can break out and slide a foil. Get past locked in absolute of being locked in on foil mentally and it opens up the imagination. Learn to do it and the imagination begins to go wild. We are at the very conception of what is going to be common place in a decade. Floaters, tube rides, vert airs with re entry and just the simple hack with spray from a breeching wingtip are all possible and will make for super sick viewing. The feeling of breaking out the fins as you would on a surfboard is closely matched by breeching or airing a foil. It's super fun when you begin to land them with consistency. Not that impressive to watch yet, but give it time. The potential is there and it will absolutely impress the educated eye when younger talent begin to do it their way. Right now its all old guys, but that's also kinda cool. In what other sport do we get to lead the charge? Even if it is just for the moment. I search and search for footage and take my cues from the guys in the Gorge like Jim Stringfellow et al. Those guys are charging ahead and breaking preconceived ideas of what foiling is. Not one of them below the age of 40. I'm amazed at how many regular guys the world over are now really very good foilers. We get to lay the blueprint. Think of Flash Austin's twirly dangle airs or Robbie's table tops in comparison to today's KOTA. There will always be generations that follow, and they will carry that torch farther than we can imagine. Foiling in waves will be big, maybe not in absolute numbers, but definitely in terms of performance sport.
This is so true. When I got my HF in 2016, everybody was laughing at me. Now almost everybody has one here. Same goes for harnesses with stiff carbon composite back. I bought one in 2017. Everybody was saying "totally unecessary!" and "way too expensive"? Now almost everybody has one or a similar one from ride engine etc.
Yup, semantics ... but that was only stated in relation to the OP in the thread, more or less paraphrased as "surfing is rad, kitesurfing in waves comes pretty close, can foiling match it?". And the best answer so far is from Joekitetime, that it's fundamentally different, rad in its own way, and the key is stop trying to equate it with "surfing" and rather just enjoy it for what it is.jumptheshark wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:59 pmFor sure its not "surfing" but if you accrue more than triple the actual face time, whats it matter?
I'm no longer going to give people grief for their riding choices. Straps, boots, SB, TT, foil, SUP, even wing. Whatever.
Real surfers might be cooler, but I'm getting to the point my riding can speak for itself. It's kiting through and through, but you can't look at it and not see the surfing.
Nice post. At least as different as skiing in powder vs. banging off moguls - different feeling and different skills. I think it's a losing game for us to try to get the same feeling and moves. There is nothing like smacking a tight turn off the lip and we can never get that feeling from a foil. But foils are giving some new thrills that I'm still discovering as a relative newcomer. The thrills are definitely there.joekitetime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:11 pm...
So yes, foiling "looks" so different than what the foiler is actually experiencing. And, to me, the distinct difference from other seemingly related sports is that while we ride on a board that looks like a snowboard, surfboard or skateboard, we really aren't riding anything even remotely related to those - we are riding on top of an airplane and the characteristics are completely different than a board. It is speed and glide and weightlessness and quietness.
I love foiling, but it is just different.