I've the Axis 720 and 820 wings, and on FB HF groups, Adrian keeps telling me it's firewood and the 900 is the best thing ever However, he's not alone in that assessment -- everyone who uses it raves about it. Hopefully I'll get a demo in February ... long wait though
Might want to rethink that “high aspect always means large radius turn” concept.
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jumptheshark wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:53 pmI'm just posting for fun, no exp with high aspect wings, but what I can get behind theory wise is that the higher aspect you go, the larger radius turns your going to get.
You can probably get amazing low end out of the high aspect wings you see the top wing surfers using now, or the people pumping away from dock starts, but it comes at a cost.
When power is not at such a premium (read: you have a kite), I would rather have a wing with the area to allow for slow flight, but also low enough aspect, or wingspan to allow for tight carves.
For kiting, I'm of the thought that you want reasonable area ie. 800-1500 square cm depending on your weight with a relatively thin profile to maintain decent speed. Power... that comes from the kite so it's not (imho) quite so important to have that ultra efficiency. The thinking being I would rather the better carving than the ultra long glide, as the glide on a lower aspect thin profile wing is already great.
Can I ask why you want that level of efficiency? and maybe what your prepared to give up for it?
Profile it the other big parameter where thicker mean more lift at lower speeds, but it comes at the cost of drag hence lower top end. I can see this being something pure wave riders are happy to favour as they may not want excess speed.
I think the question is about wings that have bigger SA than race wings but higher AR than the currently popular wings like the 633, Lift 170, etc. You are incorrect about the wing used in the video above. If it is the GL 180, it is a HIGH AR wing. I don't know the specs but just Google a picture of it.cor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:56 amWhat a confusing thread. Aspect ratio is defined by Wingspan x Wingspan / Wingarea. A typical surfwing is very LOW aspect with a big wing area, not high aspect.
Low Aspect with bigger wing area: Lower lift speed, Higher maneuverability, Higher stability (this is what you want in the waves)
High Aspect with smaller wing area: higher lift speed, speed orientated, better Upwind Performance, less stable (this is what you want when you want to race or go big)
No. The wing in the video is very LOW aspect (because a High Aspect Wing with small wing area does not work with a SUP as the lift speed is too high).
You are right. It was an assumption and I didn't read the description of the video.slowboat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:59 amI think the question is about wings that have bigger SA than race wings but higher AR than the currently popular wings like the 633, Lift 170, etc. You are incorrect about the wing used in the video above. If it is the GL 180, it is a HIGH AR wing. I don't know the specs but just Google a picture of it.
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