jakemoore wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:05 pm
juandesooka wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:36 pm
jakemoore wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:01 pm
Consider also some small kites are designed for nuclear wind and I have had one in particular that flew like a turkey in hydeofoil or kid kitevoarding strength winds.
That's the end of my technical knowledge and interest, eyes glaze over beyond that.
Yeah I think you just gotta try the kite. Or get a review from somebody who is relevant to your riding. Both the kite we did not like and the one we chose were low mid aspect tube kites.
The one I had that was a no go would only turn if it was backstalling in 20 knot winds. Maybe in 30-40 it would be good? Not relevant for me because I bought it for my son primarily and for hydrofoil as well.
I think this is very wrong
They are not designed specifically for high winds...
If some were, that was the last pile of sh.. kites I would stay away from for life, if they only worked in really high winds.
I have flown the 5 and 6 and 7 m2 kites in really low winds, when learning my "light" daughter to fly a kite, bodydrag, and later surf.
Apart from flying them myself, if the wind drops suddenlly, the kite gets wet, and I want to dry the kite in maybe 8-10 knots of wind, or only a few knots of wind, no problem, they fly just fine, in fact a lot easier to handle in superlight wind than bigger kites, they just dont pull sufficiently for riding.
Main difference is, the small kites are usually made in the same materials as the bigger ones, at least as the mediaum ones.
Meaning, they are lighter, so when flying in really low wind, despite having a higher "wingload" (weight/area), they are most often just as easy, well, in fact easier to fly in almost no wind, compared to the bigger kites.
Because of using the same materials normallhy, they are a bit stiffer in the frame.
This can be a downside in really light wind, as they frame/LE has to twist, to be able to waterrelaunch in low wind.
On the other hand, because they are smaller, they turn and loop fantastic, no matter how stiff, and as use in more wind, even on hydrofoils, we can often relaunch them quite easy despite being less flexible.
in particular as you can often reverse launch them really easy
So the easier backstall is simply because yo have a shorter stroke, and most riders are not used to riding small kites in low wind, so they have to re-learn this so to speak.
What about making kites with longer stroke with pulleys then?
Could be done, but as most of us actually love the short stroke both on surfboards or hydrofoils, so you can control everything with one hand easy, this is not the way to go IMO.
Learn to fly the small kites, thats it
And those made with lighter fabrics, will of course turn and relaunch even better, but not be so hardcore for high winds and tumbling in big waves.
Thus brands usually make a compromise that works okay for both of course, makes it cheaper for us.
A few or one exception, say small BM Clouds for example, awesome for foiling but not spot on for waves or freestyle