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Re: Frustrated with an NV in lightish wind and foiling, am I just bad?

Postby wallydog » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:03 pm

Shameless plug. Keep your 17m for snowkiting. Got to have that.
Sell the NV and buy my almost new Gong one-strut Unik 10.2. All set for anything.
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Re: Frustrated with an NV in lightish wind and foiling, am I just bad?

Postby Michaelr123 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:45 pm

and now I'm realizing that Boxer's are basically competitors to Ultra's, and not really a wave kite. Idk why I was thinking it was more of surf kite... So a drifter/sst/ neo/etc would be a better choice for my 9m kite in ~11mph of wind, does that sound correct? these are also cheaper and easier to find which is nice.

Or would a boxer/Ultra combo not be too crazy? I'm finding a lot more deals on Boxers as opposed to Ultra's which could sway my decision on the lightweight kite.

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Re: Frustrated with an NV in lightish wind and foiling, am I just bad?

Postby grigorib » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:34 pm

I think 9m might be a bit small for 11mph winds. First thing first try your NV on 30m lines and see if it makes difference. Next - demo a 10m SST or 10m Rally (or comparable wave and delta kites respectively) on long lines.
Don't jump to buy anything until you try options and demo the gear.

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Re: Frustrated with an NV in lightish wind and foiling, am I just bad?

Postby Michaelr123 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:54 pm

Do you think another 3m would make a big difference from 27m lines?

i see why there's so many discussions about going from a TT quiver to a TT+foil quiver. there's definitely some weird overlap where it seems like i almost want a few of the same size kites to get different performance. the 12m NV seems like a great kite for my TT in 15mph+ conditions. I'd also like a 12m lightwind kite for my foil, and then a 9/10m wave kite. So I could end up with a 12m, another 12m or 11m, and then a 9 or 10m kite. does that sound like what's happening?

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Re: Frustrated with an NV in lightish wind and foiling, am I just bad?

Postby jumptheshark » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:06 pm

I feel your pain! I have multiple kites in the same sizes that are drastically different.

Have only ridden he foil since last fall, but still can't quite bring myself to get rid of anything!

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Re: Frustrated with an NV in lightish wind and foiling, am I just bad?

Postby wheat » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:47 am

The only time I am using my big kite is when I am traveling to a place with shallow water and it is a light wind day.

Since you are just looking at adding your third kite and keeping a small, ~3 kite quiver, I would put some spread in the kites to be able to handle higher wind.

Some quiver ideas.
7m surf-10m (lightish)-12m NV would be good combination of what you have and the 10m as a all-around foil size. You give up some lower end as PF said, but a 10m doesn't overpower as quick.
8m Surf-12m (light)-12m NV This would gain you something on the light wind, foil days.

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Re: Frustrated with an NV in lightish wind and foiling, am I just bad?

Postby RadDrDuke » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:38 am

I live in Florida (light air) and only own a single kite: Airush Ultra 9m.

As long as the lulls are over 8knots I can go have a blast foiling. Mid teens is surfboard, High teens to 30 is TT or surfboard.

The problem with bigger kites (ie. 12m) is that they are heavy and slow, with a hydrofoil you just need a little pull to start and then the apparent wind keeps you flying. I had a 12m NV and it was super heavy and slow, worst kite I ever owned but it was V6 or something.

I have a wife and two young kids so I can't spend too much time dicking around at the beach; single strut w/WFMG pump allows fast setup and importantly self-launch/land. Walk on the beach and then on the foil in 4 minutes these days, and I live 4 minutes from the kitebeach so I can be foiling in 8 minutes at any given time LOL
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