Postby Breze » Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:14 am
@ elguapo you mean the MFC Foils? Yet, to my knowledge thehydrofoilcompany is working together with MFC, but has not produced something own?
Anyway, at my homespot, two friends of mine are on the MFCs, one has a Moses 633 and a Levitaz Cruzier and i'am on Ketos wave xl, Freerace, V2 1200
My personal pro and cons
Levitaz: Overengeneered, due to the steel fuse of almost 1000gr it is heavy , screws getting lose, timeconsuming to set up.
Despite of their tech background of the Geislinger Group , they didn't get the first series of masts strong enough.
The Cruizer wing itself is handsdown one of the best do it all wings, fast and a good jumper.
Levitaz seems to concentrate on the development of the (olympic) racefoils.
Moses can make a lot of new wings in no time, complicated production line with the need to buy different alufuselages & stabs when useing bigger surfwings and faster freeride wings. Production wise outside blingbling, inside a lot of foam and a tiny bit of carbon & glass. As we could see in a broken 633 ( hit a rock ).Imho they could do better with their compatibility and a better design & material of their fuse(lages) and a few more layers of carbon in wings and masts.Imo thats make a good product cheap.
They didn't bother to sell boards which didn't worked strapped with their bigger wings.
MFC 1075 and 1250 surf version are light, can take a beating, easy but fast, smooth ride.Drexler& Kai Lenny proved. The kiteversion with shorter fuse is different to ride than the surf version, which has a shorter mast, a buddy who tried both, said the kiteversions would be not better.
I guess they are also useing RTM. The conic connection btw fuse and some wings is not allways tight and on some wings you need a hammer to get it off.
But not a big problem. An other observation , unknown if problematic or not , are the tiny airbubbles which are coming out at the surface of the big wing when heated in the sun. MFC says no problemo.
Ketos, i own 3 wings and know best of all is a small familiar hand lay up producer.
Bc i have the most amount of personal experience with the pro and cons of Ketosfoils, the list (of cons) is longer but not every point is serious.
The website is basic, but the feedback via mail is fast. Bc of the language barriers some answers of the two Ketos ladies are short cutted.
The ladies do a great job handling orders and found allways a quick solution if i had a technical problem or a problem with the supplier.
100% customer service for what you paid( $$$). Sometimes they have forgotten one washer or send the wrong amount of screws, but handled these things very friendly and smart.
Their products just work period. Focus is on mortal free- and waverider. Race is not in their focus.Imho the main piece of a foil is the fuselage. Solid deep conical carbon connection btw mast - fuse and mast - board only needs one screw. Simple, solid, easy, fast. Same same the 2 screw connection of wing/stab- fuse. Changeable inserts! Fuselage 350gr !! All wings, stabs, masts are compatible. No need for a diff fuselage if changing frontwing. The most stabs are working with dif fwings.
The possibility to change the character of the foil with a smaller or bigger stab saves costs. Some bigger wings need longer screws, keep them save.
In wing design they get it right to produce easy smooth fast wings for a wide spectrum of user weights. It seems that the average french foiler has 65 kg, their stuff holds and works also with 90kg.
Ketos needs some time to develop new bigger wings and you have to be patient with some weeks of production time.
The boards have a very good shape, KF Box is strong and light. The strapinserts are metallic and the frontstraps can be mounted in 3 diff styles. The position of the backstrap is bc of the box a bit too backwards, for my taste.The nice PU painting on the boards is much to fragil, railsaver tape is strongly recommanded!
For faster heavier guys i would recommend the stiffer $$ racemast.
Price policy is transparent : Listprice and you get all the covers for free and one bisou. Boardcover does not allow transportation with mounted foil.
For my taste Ketos offers me the best product for my money.
No affiliation just my 2ct
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