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Re: Slingshot Phantasm Carbon foil launch - 2020

Postby richy-c » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:24 am

apos0 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:41 am
richy-c wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:35 am
Marketed as a 633? A bit cheeky following the great success of the Moses onda 633?
Slingshot designed the 633 and not Moses (if I'm not mistaken)
Really? Where do you get that info please?

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Re: Slingshot Phantasm Carbon foil launch - 2020

Postby airsail » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:08 pm

Here is a Slingshot Ghost Whisperer with the GW633 wing, 2018 maybe. I know there was a close tie up between Slingshot and Moses then.
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Re: Slingshot Phantasm Carbon foil launch - 2020

Postby dave1986 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:22 pm

airsail wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:08 pm
Here is a Slingshot Ghost Whisperer with the GW633 wing, 2018 maybe. I know there was a close tie up between Slingshot and Moses then.
That's correct. Slingshot designed the 633 wing, but Moses manufactured them (both for Slingshot and Moses).

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Re: Slingshot Phantasm Carbon foil launch - 2020

Postby toyletbowl » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:53 pm

apos0 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:41 am
richy-c wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:35 am
Marketed as a 633? A bit cheeky following the great success of the Moses onda 633?
Slingshot designed the 633 and not Moses (if I'm not mistaken)
100%. Tony from Slingshot designed the 633 wing, which is also the Apollo wing for the Hoverglide system and now the 633 for Phantasm.

I think my 633 Phantasm demo and stock foils are shipping today. I'll post pics and info one received.

Cannot wait.

Bob
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Re: Slingshot Phantasm Carbon foil launch - 2020

Postby dave1986 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:01 pm

Does anyone know which parts of the Slingshot Phantasm hydrofoils are interchangeable with Moses parts?

For example, could I use a Slingshot Phantasm 92cm Carbon mast with my Moses fuselage and Moses 633 wing?

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Re: Slingshot Phantasm Carbon foil launch - 2020

Postby toyletbowl » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:40 pm

dave1986 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:01 pm
Does anyone know which parts of the Slingshot Phantasm hydrofoils are interchangeable with Moses parts?

For example, could I use a Slingshot Phantasm 92cm Carbon mast with my Moses fuselage and Moses 633 wing?
Good question. Given the past relationship between Slingshot and Moses, this would seem possible.

However, Slingshot wanted full control over the entire design and manufacturing process, hence the Phantasm line of Carbon foils.

So long answer is they will not be compatible.

https://kiteridersllc.com/product-categ ... hot-foils/

Hope this helps.

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Re: Slingshot Phantasm Carbon foil launch - 2020

Postby grigorib » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:01 pm

richy-c wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:24 am
apos0 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:41 am
richy-c wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:35 am
Marketed as a 633? A bit cheeky following the great success of the Moses onda 633?
Slingshot designed the 633 and not Moses (if I'm not mistaken)
Really? Where do you get that info please?
Slingshot designed breakthrough 590 and 633 wings for Moses. Too sad they stopped cooperating, too sad Slingshot couldn’t get enough wings they were demanded

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Re: Slingshot Phantasm Carbon foil launch - 2020

Postby dave1986 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:05 pm

toyletbowl wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:40 pm
dave1986 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:01 pm
Does anyone know which parts of the Slingshot Phantasm hydrofoils are interchangeable with Moses parts?

For example, could I use a Slingshot Phantasm 92cm Carbon mast with my Moses fuselage and Moses 633 wing?
Good question. Given the past relationship between Slingshot and Moses, this would seem possible.

However, Slingshot wanted full control over the entire design and manufacturing process, hence the Phantasm line of Carbon foils.

So long answer is they will not be compatible.
That's not what I read about the Slingshot Adaptive Fit Fuselage.

From the below screenshot it's clear that the Slingshot fuselage will fit Moses wings. But will it also fit Moses masts?
Screenshot_20200929-160420_Drive.jpg

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Re: Slingshot Phantasm Carbon foil launch - 2020

Postby t_huebs » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:36 pm

dave1986 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:05 pm
That's not what I read about the Slingshot Adaptive Fit Fuselage.

From the below screenshot it's clear that the Slingshot fuselage will fit Moses wings. But will it also fit Moses masts?
Screenshot_20200929-160420_Drive.jpg
At this point probably best to wait until someone puts hands-on, a compatibility matrix probably won't be far behind. Also, remember that Moses wings don't necessarily fit other Moses fuselage styles.

I read the same you did and now that the promo/sales shots are on websites the foil connection shows multiple different setups of 0/3/5 screws. Note the AMP base also looks different.

Wholly uninformed guesstimate though: It won't be long until someone comes up with an adapter for old Slingshot or Moses masts to fit the new fuselage.

Edited to add: Anyone else think the new 633 looks like a cross between the old 633 and a hoverglide infinity style foil with the turned down tips?

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Re: Slingshot Phantasm Carbon foil launch - 2020

Postby toyletbowl » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:22 pm

dave1986 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:05 pm
toyletbowl wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:40 pm
dave1986 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:01 pm
Does anyone know which parts of the Slingshot Phantasm hydrofoils are interchangeable with Moses parts?

For example, could I use a Slingshot Phantasm 92cm Carbon mast with my Moses fuselage and Moses 633 wing?
Good question. Given the past relationship between Slingshot and Moses, this would seem possible.

However, Slingshot wanted full control over the entire design and manufacturing process, hence the Phantasm line of Carbon foils.

So long answer is they will not be compatible.
That's not what I read about the Slingshot Adaptive Fit Fuselage.

From the below screenshot it's clear that the Slingshot fuselage will fit Moses wings. But will it also fit Moses masts?
Screenshot_20200929-160420_Drive.jpg
Hi Dave......I was aware of this also, but since that PDF was released a while ago, the fuselage has gone through changes.

I checked once again with my source and they are not compatible.

Hope this helps.

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