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Re: First impression of Gong M Pro

Postby omg » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:53 am

I'm a bit shocked about the weight of the M Pro setup, on their website it's 3,7kg, and thanks to one person here weighed the setup: 4,35kg! This is hardly in the tolerance error margin. For travelling almost +1 kg is quite a bit when you are always at the weight limit, though for ordinary riding, based on reports, it doesn't matter.

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Re: First impression of Gong M Pro

Postby twig » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:27 am

Hi

I dont know if this was already mentioned but how slow can you go with the gong m pro Wing? And would you think that the L pro wing would help to go slower? It would probably have a better lowend.

I already have Moses 101mast with 590 + 558. For fast rides.

Then the gong pro m would complemenet me if I could ride slow like the 633.

Thanks

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Re: First impression of Gong M Pro

Postby Flyboy » Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:20 pm

omg wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:53 am
I'm a bit shocked about the weight of the M Pro setup, on their website it's 3,7kg, and thanks to one person here weighed the setup: 4,35kg! This is hardly in the tolerance error margin. For travelling almost +1 kg is quite a bit when you are always at the weight limit, though for ordinary riding, based on reports, it doesn't matter.
Yup - it's not as light as claimed (with the 90 cm mast). It does seem to be on a par with other comparable alu foils though & doesn't feel "heavy" in use.

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Re: First impression of Gong M Pro

Postby Flyboy » Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:30 pm

twig wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:27 am
Hi

I dont know if this was already mentioned but how slow can you go with the gong m pro Wing? And would you think that the L pro wing would help to go slower? It would probably have a better lowend.

I already have Moses 101mast with 590 + 558. For fast rides.

Then the gong pro m would complemenet me if I could ride slow like the 633.

Thanks
I've never used a 633, so I can't compare. I have an LP foil with a 700cm wing that is not unlike the 590. There's a very significant difference in low speed lift between the the LP & the MPro. I feel like I can use a kite 2m - 3m smaller with the MPro.

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Re: First impression of Gong M Pro

Postby GTC » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:24 pm

What board size are you using with the M Pro? I just ordered it with a 4'6 Catch 3CS.

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Re: First impression of Gong M Pro

Postby TomW » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:58 pm

twig wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:27 am
Hi

I dont know if this was already mentioned but how slow can you go with the gong m pro Wing? And would you think that the L pro wing would help to go slower? It would probably have a better lowend.

I already have Moses 101mast with 590 + 558. For fast rides.

Then the gong pro m would complemenet me if I could ride slow like the 633.

Thanks
I've been on 633 for 2 years. The M Pro has same low end as 633. Perhaps you need to be going 1km / hr faster at lowest speed. It's so small difference, you'd have to have other method than GPS to measure, and I can't perceive any difference. it doesn't matter it's so small difference.
The biggest difference is the starting, I can't really explain it, but it's different weight distribution, a bit more front foot pressure on Gong M Pro just as you are rising out of water and foil is lifting.
It's very subtle, but it took me 2 sessions to adjust. Plus sinking foil was new challenge compared to moses that floats forever on side. Now I prefer sinking foil because I don't have to drag upwind to get it.
Top speed is better, and Gong you can push harder upwind and less sensitive to turbulent water and overtaking waves.

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Re: First impression of Gong M Pro

Postby Flyboy » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:14 pm

GTC wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:24 pm
What board size are you using with the M Pro? I just ordered it with a 4'6 Catch 3CS.
I'm not sure who you're asking ... & why?

If you are just starting out seems like the 4'6" Catch 3CS would be a great board. I started on a SS Dwarfcraft 4'6". I now use a 3'6" Dwarfcraft. I don't see a huge benefit in using the smaller board - it's more compact for storage & travelling & a it's more manoeuvrable on the water. Definitely trickier to learn on.

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Re: First impression of Gong M Pro

Postby Flyboy » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:27 pm

Gong now has a new carbon mast available. It has an integrated fuselage - like the GOFoil. The advantage of this is the rigidity offered by a fixed mast/fuse connection. The downside is it's more awkward for traveling. The current alu fuse is 21.5" (54.6 cm) - I am assuming the carbon fuse is the same length.

It occurs to me that it should be possible to construct the fuse so that it is shorter & could therefore fit in a travel bag. Cut off the male part (that the rear wing slides over) & have it as a separate piece that slides into the main part of the fuse & screws into place. This would take 3" off the fuselage making it only 18" (45.7cm) which is the same width as a lot of boards. As that section is some distance from the mast/fuse connection I don't think it would weaken that connection at all.

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Re: First impression of Gong M Pro

Postby Windigo1 » Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:15 pm

omg wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:53 am
I'm a bit shocked about the weight of the M Pro setup, on their website it's 3,7kg, and thanks to one person here weighed the setup: 4,35kg! This is hardly in the tolerance error margin. For travelling almost +1 kg is quite a bit when you are always at the weight limit, though for ordinary riding, based on reports, it doesn't matter.
Same for me I jut got a M Pro with 80cm mast I already had the 90cm from the Allvator Freeride anyway 4.2KG with the 80cm That's a pretty big difference they are clearly lying on the weight. Anyway looks like a great foil regardless it's winter here so I won't know until my next trip to Cuba in a few weeks!

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Re: First impression of Gong M Pro

Postby DRAZ » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:59 pm

They've updated their website to show 4.3kg for the complete 90cm.

80cm w/ Classic M shows 3.6kg so definitely plenty of mistakes on their site.


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