TomW wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:50 pmI don't know for sure, but it is surely the exact same wing with a different carbon/ glass layup schedule allowing you to see the carbon, and the extra hole for the screw.
The clear version probably needs more labor and care to get the nice carbon weave, they can't fix any imperfections and paint over it at last step. This will increase number of wings that have to be scrapped due to some small molding imperfection.
So add labor, material, loss of production yield. They add 10% to price...
Looking at mine on the aluminum fuse, it's definitely smoother (40cm surf stab). Of course it will make absolutely no discernible difference in performance, just aesthetic.GTC wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:55 pmI purchased a Gong Pro M and Catch 4'6 this week. It took me some time to understand the differences between their boards and wings range. So I agree with some of you, their website is a total mess. And that's not a subjective criticism, I am web designer .
The construction looks very solid but there's one thing I would like to consult with you.
There's a notch in the joint between the stab and the fuselage. They don't form a smooth surface. However, the connection between the fuselage and the front wing is perfect. In the images attached you can see what I mean.
By the way, a bit disappointed to see the new Catch FSP at the same price I purchased the Catch 3CS just few days ago...
Regards!
I sent the fuselage and stab back to Gong so they can have a look.Thatspeck wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:01 amLooking at mine on the aluminum fuse, it's definitely smoother (40cm surf stab). Of course it will make absolutely no discernible difference in performance, just aesthetic.GTC wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:55 pmI purchased a Gong Pro M and Catch 4'6 this week. It took me some time to understand the differences between their boards and wings range. So I agree with some of you, their website is a total mess. And that's not a subjective criticism, I am web designer .
The construction looks very solid but there's one thing I would like to consult with you.
There's a notch in the joint between the stab and the fuselage. They don't form a smooth surface. However, the connection between the fuselage and the front wing is perfect. In the images attached you can see what I mean.
By the way, a bit disappointed to see the new Catch FSP at the same price I purchased the Catch 3CS just few days ago...
Regards!
Just got the 100cm carbon mast/fuse (which appears to be fantastic quality), will report back...
BTW; How did you get on the Gong forum? I've registered twice over the past six months, two different usernames, checked my spam, no response after the initial form email.
Sent several follow up emails to the administrator as well At least their customer service response on the product end is quite good.
The carbon mast only comes in the 100cm & 70cm lengths. I asked Gong whether they were going to make other lengths. Their answer was that they are not planning on that at the minute & the 70 cm carbon mast was intended for surfers & the 100 cm mast was intended for expert kite foilers. This is a bit of an odd characterization in the present kite foiling climate. With the larger wings available the trend has been for kiters to use shorter, rather than longer masts. I'm thinking that 80 cm may represent the sweet spot at the minute for a lot of kite foilers using surf wings.
Thatspeck wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:01 am
Looking at mine on the aluminum fuse, it's definitely smoother (40cm surf stab). Of course it will make absolutely no discernible difference in performance, just aesthetic.
Just got the 100cm carbon mast/fuse (which appears to be fantastic quality), will report back...
BTW; How did you get on the Gong forum? I've registered twice over the past six months, two different usernames, checked my spam, no response after the initial form email.
Sent several follow up emails to the administrator as well At least their customer service response on the product end is quite good.
I already have a 100 cm mast with 700 cm wing with my LP foil set up. I got a 65 cm & 90 cm mast with my Gong alu. In general, I'm happy using the 100 cm mast or the 90cm mast to foil. I imagine the fuselage on the carbon Gong would be the exact same size as the aluminum fuselage, because the idea is that you can use the existing wings on it. I tried putting the 90 cm mast + fuselage in my traveling "golf bag" - it's barely possible if you put the mast at a bit of an angle, which is a little precarious if the bag got banged hard. An 80 cm mast would fit a little bit more easily.Peter_Frank wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:34 pmAgree somewhat Flyboy.
The 70 cm is only for SUP foiler or similar yes, not for kitefoiling (very very few like this short one).
And the sweetspot for "most" riders today, is between 90 and 95 cm which IMO would be the choice to make, besides a 70 cm for SUP, if you only would offer 2 mast lengths.
Personally I would have no issues with a 100 cm mast, but looking at others, I think closer down to 90 cm is the "golden" length that can satisfy the most kitefoilers
On the other hand, they got the two "extremes" now, one for big wave chop or speed, and one for SUP and low water riding - so they CAN make an "in between" 85 cm later, which might suit many foilers
Peter
Pretty sure it's identical to the aluminum surf fuselage, 21.5" comes to mind (edit: just confirmed, fuse is 21.5", 54.5cm overall length on the carbon). I checked before buying that it would fit in my golf bag and it's no problem. My bag will fit a 5' board so it was the fuse I was concerned about. This thing is really a work of art, finish is better looking to me than the Go Foil stuff I have in the US. I've no use for the giant suitcase it came in though, nice but it's a checked bag by itself...DRAZ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:33 pmThatspeck wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:01 am
Looking at mine on the aluminum fuse, it's definitely smoother (40cm surf stab). Of course it will make absolutely no discernible difference in performance, just aesthetic.
Just got the 100cm carbon mast/fuse (which appears to be fantastic quality), will report back...
BTW; How did you get on the Gong forum? I've registered twice over the past six months, two different usernames, checked my spam, no response after the initial form email.
Sent several follow up emails to the administrator as well At least their customer service response on the product end is quite good.
Do you mind measuring the fuselage length? Want to see if I could travel with this setup or if I need to stick with the aluminum setup.
Thanks
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